Monkeymagic22 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Looking at how the play offs are organised it would be great if we could finish 3rd. That way you get 2 bites at the cherry. Whilst Toronto look a class apart, for me it’s not beyond any of the other teams reaching the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Monkeymagic22 said: Looking at how the play offs are organised it would be great if we could finish 3rd. That way you get 2 bites at the cherry. Whilst Toronto look a class apart, for me it’s not beyond any of the other teams reaching the final. they didn't look a class apart when we played them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Baldrick Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 or 5 months ago the consensus of opinion was that we would be relegation fodder this year. Suddenly we are now looking forward to the play offs, it's a funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said: 4 or 5 months ago the consensus of opinion was that we would be relegation fodder this year. Suddenly we are now looking forward to the play offs, it's a funny old game. Don't worry, we'll be back to "Carr out" next time we lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Pike Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 After all the adjustments and player fallout of last year I would like like I have past posted a while ago that I would have been happy with a mid table finish but I am confident for a top five finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said: Looking at how the play offs are organised it would be great if we could finish 3rd. That way you get 2 bites at the cherry. Whilst Toronto look a class apart, for me it’s not beyond any of the other teams reaching the final. Not going to disagree with you at all, but there was a thing when RL had the Top5 system previously that said that 3rd is a curse because you start with 2nd away and if you lose you play 4th or 5th coming off a win. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fev1983 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said: Looking at how the play offs are organised it would be great if we could finish 3rd. That way you get 2 bites at the cherry. Whilst Toronto look a class apart, for me it’s not beyond any of the other teams reaching the final. Second place would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrtbps Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Fev1983 said: Second place would be better. I'd be happy with first. FEATHERSTONE ROVERS, A GENERATIONAL LOVE AFFAIR, AND THE CALL OF HISTORY A SECOND TIME AROUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Assuming the higher placed club always wins: Week 1: 1 rest, 2v3, 4v5 Week 2: 1v2, 3v4 Week 3: 2v3 Week 4: 1v2 It's a good system. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Baldrick Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said: Assuming the higher placed club always wins: Week 1: 1 rest, 2v3, 4v5 Week 2: 1v2, 3v4 Week 3: 2v3 Week 4: 1v2 It's a good system. In theory the higher placed team gets home advantage. However IF in week 1 team 3 beats team 2 and then they happen to meet again in week 3, would team 3 have the home advantage for beating them earlier or would team 2 have home advantage again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said: In theory the higher placed team gets home advantage. However IF in week 1 team 3 beats team 2 and then they happen to meet again in week 3, would team 3 have the home advantage for beating them earlier or would team 2 have home advantage again? Not sure, but I think the latter. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 See link here: https://www.rugby-league.com/2019_structure In here it states: Round 3 Preliminary Final: Loser of SF2 v Winner of SF1 If you assume that the first team is the home team then if week 1 team 3 beats team 2 and they meet again in week 3 then team 3 should get the home advantage. I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 winner of 2nd v 3rd plays 1st win that you go straight to final loser of 2nd v 3rd play the winner 4th and 5th winner then plays the loser of the game between 1st and winner of 2nd v 3rd gets to final simples including the final all games will be played at the home of the team with the higher league ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 18 hours ago, POR said: winner of 2nd v 3rd plays 1st win that you go straight to final loser of 2nd v 3rd play the winner 4th and 5th winner then plays the loser of the game between 1st and winner of 2nd v 3rd gets to final simples including the final all games will be played at the home of the team with the higher league ranking POR, where does the statement about the home advantage come from, because I can’t find it anywhere. the reason that I ask is that if this is the case then there is no advantage for the team finishing 3rd winning their 1st game. Imagine this scenario based on what you state/quote: final league placing: 1. Toronto 2. Toulouse 3. Fev then week 1 Fev go to Toulouse and win, week 2 go to Toronto and lose, week 3 go to Toulouse and win, then to the Final in Toronto again. So no home games for finishing 3rd where the team finishing 4th gets a home game. I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Let's just get there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, The Grinder said: POR, where does the statement about the home advantage come from, because I can’t find it anywhere. the reason that I ask is that if this is the case then there is no advantage for the team finishing 3rd winning their 1st game. Imagine this scenario based on what you state/quote: final league placing: 1. Toronto 2. Toulouse 3. Fev then week 1 Fev go to Toulouse and win, week 2 go to Toronto and lose, week 3 go to Toulouse and win, then to the Final in Toronto again. So no home games for finishing 3rd where the team finishing 4th gets a home game. 2019 Tier 1-3 Operational Rules state that the highest ranked team has home advantage in all rounds (unless the RFL rule otherwise, a clause needed to allow for unforeseen circumstances). Edit: https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/2019-operational-rules-tiers-1-3/mobile/index.html Page 13, 1st paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, The Grinder said: POR, where does the statement about the home advantage come from, because I can’t find it anywhere. grinder at the time rimmer said play offs will follow standard rugby league rules so i assumed it would be like it always was high v low and LTS has quoted the 2019 Tier 1-3 Operational Rules rules however after searching here there and everywhere found this on batley bulldogs web site Round 1 Elimination Final: 4th v 5th Qualifying Final: 2nd v 3rd Round 2 1st Semi-Final: Loser of QF v Winner of EF 2nd Semi-Final: 1st v Winner of QF Round 3 Preliminary Final: Loser of SF2 v Winner of SF1 Final Winner of 2nd Semi-Final v Winner of Preliminary Final so if batley have got it right then if FEV come 2nd or 3rd and lose Qualifying Final: we would play 1st Semi-Final: at home lose we're out win then we play Preliminary Final away lose and we're out win and play final away 'win Qualifying Final play 2nd Semi-Final: away lose 2nd Semi-Final: play Preliminary Final: at home lose we're out win and play final away win Qualifying Final play 2nd Semi-Final: away win 2nd Semi-Final play final at home happy days win Qualifying Final and then 2nd Semi-Final the Championship Play-Off Final: will be played at FEV HAPPY DAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeymagic22 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, POR said: grinder at the time rimmer said play offs will follow standard rugby league rules so i assumed it would be like it always was high v low and LTS has quoted the 2019 Tier 1-3 Operational Rules rules however after searching here there and everywhere found this on batley bulldogs web site Round 1 Elimination Final: 4th v 5th Qualifying Final: 2nd v 3rd Round 2 1st Semi-Final: Loser of QF v Winner of EF 2nd Semi-Final: 1st v Winner of QF Round 3 Preliminary Final: Loser of SF2 v Winner of SF1 Final Winner of 2nd Semi-Final v Winner of Preliminary Final so if batley have got it right then if FEV come 2nd or 3rd and lose Qualifying Final: we would play 1st Semi-Final: at home lose we're out win then we play Preliminary Final away lose and we're out win and play final away 'win Qualifying Final play 2nd Semi-Final: away lose 2nd Semi-Final: play Preliminary Final: at home lose we're out win and play final away win Qualifying Final play 2nd Semi-Final: away win 2nd Semi-Final play final at home happy days win Qualifying Final and then 2nd Semi-Final the Championship Play-Off Final: will be played at FEV HAPPY DAYS So the final isn’t at a neutral venue as per the previous method?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fev1983 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said: So the final isn’t at a neutral venue as per the previous method?. As Gooleboy said earlier, LETS JUST GET THERE, we are only 2 points off seventh place as things stand, somebody has to be realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Start by giving those bug gers a tuppin next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fev1983 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Reight once and for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fevtom Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 This is why I'm not really a fan of the five team play off, I doubt majority of fans at any given game really know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 23 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: 2019 Tier 1-3 Operational Rules state that the highest ranked team has home advantage in all rounds (unless the RFL rule otherwise, a clause needed to allow for unforeseen circumstances). Edit: https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/2019-operational-rules-tiers-1-3/mobile/index.html Page 13, 1st paragraph. LTS, Thanks for this I had seen this earlier and read the highlighted piece. It is this than makes me think that this is not necessarily league position. If the intention was that it is based purely on league position this could have been written as "...the team with the highest league placing has home advantage in all rounds...", which would be unambiguous. Given that it is not written that way makes me think that the "highest ranked team" is based on the place within the playoff system its self, which for the first round is based on league positions, but there after is based on winners and losers in each round. As I stated above if it is based purely on league placings then there is no advantage for the team finishing 3rd in the league winning their first game since they will never get a home game, which just feels wrong to me. I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, The Grinder said: LTS, Thanks for this I had seen this earlier and read the highlighted piece. It is this than makes me think that this is not necessarily league position. If the intention was that it is based purely on league position this could have been written as "...the team with the highest league placing has home advantage in all rounds...", which would be unambiguous. Given that it is not written that way makes me think that the "highest ranked team" is based on the place within the playoff system its self, which for the first round is based on league positions, but there after is based on winners and losers in each round. As I stated above if it is based purely on league placings then there is no advantage for the team finishing 3rd in the league winning their first game since they will never get a home game, which just feels wrong to me. Clubs go into these play offs ranked 1 to 5 and keep that ranking throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADREDNIGE Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 hours ago, fevtom said: This is why I'm not really a fan of the five team play off, I doubt majority of fans at any given game really know how it works. Hopefully we'll find out lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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