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Due to the Roughyeds not owning their own home again, I was wondering if there were any plans for a permanent ground in the pipeline? If not where would the ideal location be do you think?

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What the ideal location would be and what is available are probably two different issues.

The ideal location would be on that piece of land halfway up Ripponden Road just past Herbert Street and off to the right, behind where the junction of Counthill Road is.

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The club hasn't a pot to p in. So I doubt that there will ever be any type of owned home ground. 

I think that having a competitive team playing week in week out is more of an achievement at the moment. 

 

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In honesty the first goal is to fill whitebank week on week. As the business model is not sustainable on crowds of less than 500. That's not achieved most weeks. 

But the marketing company are doing their best at least the advert is out a couple of days before game day. That hasn't happened all the time this year 

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Fields new road playing field,2 RL pitches on the field,owned by the RFL,leased to hollingwood ARLFC, 5mins from junction 21/22 of the m60,500m from 2 metrolink stops..

A joint venture between the trust,council & RFL would be able to access funds/grants to build a community,pro & amateur  RL facility..

That's the only viable place in oldham to build anything to do with RL..


OLDHAM RLFC

the 8TH most successful team in british RL

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The club can barely function let alone set out plans for its own facility. It's not going to happen especially on the current attendances. It's really sad to think that 25 years ago we had our own ground etc and look at us now.

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Pie in the sky currently, its not a story peculiar to our club though. Lots of clubs are struggling mind you our attendances are probably among the worst in the league. 

I know we have the smallest ground in league in terms of capacity, shame this as we are also the oldest club in the league by some distance! 

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One of the biggest reasons for poor attendances at Whitebank is its locality. Without transport it's almost impossible to get to there on a Sunday afternoon, it's in an area that doesn't have a RL tradition and the ground has to be the worst in professional RL.

If money was available! the ground has to be on the north side of Oldham, as near to Watersheddings as possible, or possibly the old Higginshaw gasworks site.

Any thoughts about going to Boundary Park, for me, is a definite NO! The place is soulless with three sides closed with only 1000 spectators there.

Sadly all pipe dreams. Our great club will just limp along until the inevitable and I feel this will be sooner than later with sooperdooperleague now in control of monies coming into the game. Many great clubs will go to the wall because the RFL just don't give a damn.

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The last 25 years of Oldham rugby league has been upsetting to say the least. Ground gone,club gone. New club lifts off but the years of a nomadic existence haven't done it any favours. The big question is- Is rugby league even relevant in the town. Stagnation and isolation have been a big turn off for fans as the attendances have seen. We were one of the club's who created the game for crying out loud. Crying shame,that's what it is.

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11 hours ago, RL does what Sky says said:

If only 'Sheddings hadn't been sold to B&Q.

That's Battye and Quinn by the way !

I just wonder what they think of the current situation.... but they are probably not at all bothered ?

Unfortunately it's about 22/23 years too late.

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16 hours ago, moorside roughyed said:

The last 25 years of Oldham rugby league has been upsetting to say the least. Ground gone,club gone. New club lifts off but the years of a nomadic existence haven't done it any favours. The big question is- Is rugby league even relevant in the town. Stagnation and isolation have been a big turn off for fans as the attendances have seen. We were one of the club's who created the game for crying out loud. Crying shame,that's what it is.

Couldn't agree more I'm afraid. 

Don't know how or even if things will ever improve, which is very depressing 

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11 hours ago, FailsworthYed said:

Don't know how or even if things will ever improve, which is very depressing 

I do have a great deal of  praise for Chris Hamilton with regard to him having formed the new club and kept it in operation all these years. However, I do feel he has now done all he can and it's time for him to let go and allow someone else to take charge.

Yes, I'm sure it would be hard for him to step down after all he has done but ultimately it might be best for HIS club. I'm sure his experience would certainly be welcomed somehow behind the scenes by any new man in charge and I think the club supporters would certainly always thank him for what he has done.

The question is "Is there anyone out there willing to take it on ?"

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you don't run a business for 22 years if you are not making money, forget it being a rugby club ch as done very nicely out of it.

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3 hours ago, tandle said:

you don't run a business for 22 years if you are not making money, forget it being a rugby club ch as done very nicely out of it.

Agreed and I don't really mind what he has gained from the venture as without him there wouldn't be a club at all.

However, for the club's sake I do believe that some new blood in required but it's matter of someone willing to buy him out and run the show.

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4 hours ago, RL does what Sky says said:

Agreed and I don't really mind what he has gained from the venture as without him there wouldn't be a club at all.

However, for the club's sake I do believe that some new blood in required but it's matter of someone willing to buy him out and run the show.

I would've thought for someone to buy the club there would be equity in it. But I wonder how much there is in in the club. How much debt is there?. I bet the books are a right eyesore.

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last accounts 31st oct 2017 fixed assets £1.745

creditors due in one year £334.108. ie. thousands.

accounts 2015 fixed  assets £125.896.

creditors due in one year £442.687.

accounts 2016 fixed assets £2.068.

creditors due one year £341.834.

so between 2015 and 2016 creditor/creditors where paid £80.853 ?

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6 hours ago, moorside roughyed said:

It'd be interesting to see just how much the club is or isn't worth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The club, or anything else for that matter, is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it. So, at this moment in time, that's nothing. Quoting published accounts is irrelevant tbh. They are just for accounting and tax purposes and tell you nothing about the current state of affairs. 

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The club is only worth £1 due to the size of the debts and no assets (ie no longer owning the Whitebank lease) 

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3 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

The club, or anything else for that matter, is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it. So, at this moment in time, that's nothing. Quoting published accounts is irrelevant tbh. They are just for accounting and tax purposes and tell you nothing about the current state of affairs. 

are you serious that audited accounts filed at companies house are not fit for purpose.

if so then in your expert opinion tell the supporters what your estimated value of Oldham rlfc 1997 ltd is.

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