deluded pom? Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 19/06/2019 at 09:17, Angelic Cynic said: During the 2nd World War,the city of Liverpool took more bombing than other cities,except London.Huge loss of life,no doubt. Please don’t ever mention this to anybody from Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 The thread title is incorrect. https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sun-halts-rugby-league-coverage-after-reporter-barred-from-anfield-liverpool-magic-weekend-event/ Those of you spitting bile can now get their breath back and resume their subscriptions to the Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, DC77 said: There’s no beef (if there was any they would have reacted to Liverpool FC by covering the club less, they don’t). RL is disposable to them, this was their excuse to ditch it. Money talks, yet here you are pandering to them. I'm not pandering to anyone, I'm just trying to understand what happened? Why would you turn your back on high potential sales revenue from your core demographic (if you were the Sun), to save a few column inches? It doesn't make sense. Do you know why they seemed to blame RL for what happened at Liverpool, when we appeared blameless in the incident? The ''problem'' is between them and Liverpool. You appear to be so hellbent on rubbishing the Sun, you've ignored my question. If you don't know the answer that's ok, just say so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Saintslass said: The RFL's resources. There have been clubs in Liverpool. But they've never taken off. How many should be started up before we are allowed to claim rugby league is flogging a dead horse in Liverpool? We are still waiting. What are these resources that the RFL have ploughed into Liverpool or are you just making things up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Damien said: We are still waiting. What are these resources that the RFL have ploughed into Liverpool or are you just making things up? Just in case not aware and I apologise if known - I would guess that part of the answer would be the history of clubs in Liverpool, from Liverpool Stanley early 1900's, to Liverpool City 1950's and 60's, to Huyton 1970's and 80's... I watched Liverpool at Knotty Ash, and Huyton at Alt Park, Liverpool Road. Don't think I actually saw Huyton win a game.... Not saying resources put in from RFL but the clubs moved and eventually folded having moved to Runcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, redjonn said: Just in case not aware and I apologise if known - I would guess that part of the answer would be the history of clubs in Liverpool, from Liverpool Stanley early 1900's, to Liverpool City 1950's and 60's, to Huyton 1970's and 80's... I watched Liverpool at Knotty Ash, and Huyton at Alt Park, Liverpool Road. Don't think I actually saw Huyton win a game.... Not saying resources put in from RFL but the clubs moved and eventually folded having moved to Runcorn. It's not part of the answer as it's nothing to do with the RFL putting in resources and isn't what's being discussed. It certainly has nothing to do with all these resources that the RFL are currently supposedly ploughing into Liverpool. The past clubs have also already been covered in previous posts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 With regards to this thread, I thought I would make a nuisance of myself to the Sun with this e-mail... Sir, It has been brought to my attention that you have introduced a blanket ban on reporting anything to do with Rugby League, mainly because Liverpool FC banned your reporter from attending the Magic Weekend, which was held at Anfield. This reporter was banned because Liverpool FC have a ban on The Sun reporters, because of your dreadful reporting of the Hillsborough event, this was not a decision made by the Rugby Football League, so I am writing to ask why have you punished Rugby League by not even reporting results? If anything you should ban Football reporting. But you won’t do that, as many of your core readers are football fans. A full explanation is required as to your petulant action. This is the reply I got...… Dear David, Thank you for your email. As I understand it, we have now resumed covering rugby league, and so you will be able to enjoy reading about it in The Sun once more. Best wishes, Robyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC77 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 17 hours ago, fighting irish said: I'm not pandering to anyone, I'm just trying to understand what happened? Why would you turn your back on high potential sales revenue from your core demographic (if you were the Sun), to save a few column inches? It doesn't make sense. Do you know why they seemed to blame RL for what happened at Liverpool, when we appeared blameless in the incident? The ''problem'' is between them and Liverpool. You appear to be so hellbent on rubbishing the Sun, you've ignored my question. If you don't know the answer that's ok, just say so? Apologies for coming across as argumentative. Not covering RL (for four weeks) due to a weekend ban, when they extensively cover a club that has banned them for good, it shows the hypocrisy of the organisation. Paper sales is all they care about. The rag is morally bankrupt. You don’t reason with them, or appeal to them. RL should be taking the moral high ground here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Bleep1673 said: With regards to this thread, I thought I would make a nuisance of myself to the Sun with this e-mail... Sir, It has been brought to my attention that you have introduced a blanket ban on reporting anything to do with Rugby League, mainly because Liverpool FC banned your reporter from attending the Magic Weekend, which was held at Anfield. This reporter was banned because Liverpool FC have a ban on The Sun reporters, because of your dreadful reporting of the Hillsborough event, this was not a decision made by the Rugby Football League, so I am writing to ask why have you punished Rugby League by not even reporting results? If anything you should ban Football reporting. But you won’t do that, as many of your core readers are football fans. A full explanation is required as to your petulant action. This is the reply I got...… Dear David, Thank you for your email. As I understand it, we have now resumed covering rugby league, and so you will be able to enjoy reading about it in The Sun once more. Best wishes, Robyn Thanks for doing that and confirming what the Sun itself published a few days ago (see link I posted earlier.) Be interested to hear how the decision was arrived at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Of other News interest, Les Snowden, who was assistant editor at The Sun, takes over as editor of Sport at The Times, will we see an even more reduced coverage in The Times of Rugby League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Bleep1673 said: Of other News interest, Les Snowden, who was assistant editor at The Sun, takes over as editor of Sport at The Times, will we see an even more reduced coverage in The Times of Rugby League. Is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Damien said: It's not part of the answer as it's nothing to do with the RFL putting in resources and isn't what's being discussed. It certainly has nothing to do with all these resources that the RFL are currently supposedly ploughing into Liverpool. The past clubs have also already been covered in previous posts too. sorry I made the effort to comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Surely this is a situation that Robert Elstone can sort out pretty easily. If this is too big to take on what can Robert do? Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Still no real explanation for their actions though. Perhaps it was revenge against Robert Elstone, for his action against the paper whilst at Everton and his decision to use Anfield for the Magic Weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimmestStar Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The Sun is a comic which usually leads with stories from soap TV. It sells more copies by far. 1.5 million per day than any other...er....newspaper. For many years it has had the best Rugby League coverage of any national paper and recently has stood by Gary Carter after the sickening assault on him which left him fighting for his life. It clearly cannot be good for Rugby League to lose coverage to 1.5 million readers per day even if like me they only look at the easy crossword puzzle and the excellent RL coverage from Gary Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, fighting irish said: Still no real explanation for their actions though. Perhaps it was revenge against Robert Elstone, for his action against the paper whilst at Everton and his decision to use Anfield for the Magic Weekend? Quite likely, but they've backed down very quickly, so all the defeatist talk of pandering to the bullies and liars of the Sun by taking games away from stadia they don't approve of can now be forgotten. I wish. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Allora said: Surely this is a situation that Robert Elstone can sort out pretty easily. If this is too big to take on what can Robert do? You would think so. Simple telephone call. No fuss just resume normal operations and discuss while they’re going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Lowdesert said: You would think so. Simple telephone call. No fuss just resume normal operations and discuss while they’re going on. Maybe that's what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel Stag Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Some newspaper coverage of RL from Friday, focusing on the Broncos game v Hull KR. Mirror, Express, Star. All credited to Gareth Walker Twitter ID @garethwalker well worth a follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel Stag Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Gary Carter on Twitter @garycarter_1979 In today’s Sun - match reports from all Super League games. The table certainly looking interesting as Salford move into play-off position. Today’s first edition - Lee Radford has been told it IS possible to sign Fonua and the English lads putting the boot in down under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Damien said: Maybe that's what happened. I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 13 hours ago, DimmestStar said: The Sun is a comic which usually leads with stories from soap TV. It sells more copies by far. 1.5 million per day than any other...er....newspaper. For many years it has had the best Rugby League coverage of any national paper and recently has stood by Gary Carter after the sickening assault on him which left him fighting for his life. It clearly cannot be good for Rugby League to lose coverage to 1.5 million readers per day even if like me they only look at the easy crossword puzzle and the excellent RL coverage from Gary Carter. I honestly don't think outside the sun, metro and daily mail the other newspapers don't matter that much they have such a small readership. You could argue coverage in papers like the telegraph would put the game in the views of important people. But people really don't read the other newspapers anymore. However the sun still has a massive reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: I honestly don't think outside the sun, metro and daily mail the other newspapers don't matter that much they have such a small readership. You could argue coverage in papers like the telegraph would put the game in the views of important people. But people really don't read the other newspapers anymore. However the sun still has a massive reach. If it was the 1970s, I would agree with you. I think you seem unaware though of the online reach on the Daily Mail and the Guardian and the changing way people get their news and sport with the advent of the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxmanc Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said: If it was the 1970s, I would agree with you. I think you seem unaware though of the online reach on the Daily Mail and the Guardian and the changing way people get their news and sport with the advent of the internet. That's a fair point. I 'm quite surprised at the numbers of peoiple accessing news online. The table in this article on online readership shows some hefty numbers. A standout for me is the Independent which, with no print position, reaches 22 million readers a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said: If it was the 1970s, I would agree with you. I think you seem unaware though of the online reach on the Daily Mail and the Guardian and the changing way people get their news and sport with the advent of the internet. This applies very much to Rugby League. Before the internet, finding news on TGG was a matter of blind luck outside dedicated publications like LE (if it was even on sale locally), and usually underwhelmingly minimal if you did find some in the national papers. The internet's been huge for RL. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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