mightyship Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Let me start by saying I’m not a huge fan of DR but as a Fev fan can see the benefits it’s brought to our team. We are often quoted as the team using DR but my understanding is the majority of the championship have it in place. Genuine question I have is how many Dual Reg setups are in play this year? my understanding is the following but happy to be corrected Batley - Huddersfield Barrow - no DR Bradford - no DR Dewsbury - Wakefield Fev - Leeds Halifax - Cas Leigh - Saints Rochdale - Warrington Sheffield - London Swinton - Wigan Toronto - no DR Toulouse - no DR Widnes - no DR York - Hull KR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Doncaster - Hull FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADREDNIGE Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, mightyship said: Let me start by saying I’m not a huge fan of DR but as a Fev fan can see the benefits it’s brought to our team. We are often quoted as the team using DR but my understanding is the majority of the championship have it in place. Genuine question I have is how many Dual Reg setups are in play this year? my understanding is the following but happy to be corrected Batley - Huddersfield Barrow - no DR Bradford - no DR Dewsbury - Wakefield Fev - Leeds Halifax - Cas Leigh - Saints Rochdale - Warrington Sheffield - London Swinton - Wigan Toronto - no DR Toulouse - no DR Widnes - no DR York - Hull KR Don't set em off again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 That sorts the real Top 5 then. *runs away giggling* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairfolly Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 A bigger question, can anybody see any of those clubs depending on D/R this season being allowed into S.L. next season if they are fortunate enough to get the chance.? Face facts here, if D/R was not allowed this season where would the vast majority of them be. All in the bottom half of the league,that is where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield Ram Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Dewsbury are not in DR though we have had a couple of Wakefield loan players for most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 York aren't dual registered with anyone in 2019. They were dual registered with Hull KR in 2017 and 2018 though. @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, fairfolly said: A bigger question, can anybody see any of those clubs depending on D/R this season being allowed into S.L. next season if they are fortunate enough to get the chance.? Face facts here, if D/R was not allowed this season where would the vast majority of them be. All in the bottom half of the league,that is where. Well, the top three currently don't use a DR agreement, so they would probably be as they are. @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Dual Reg, will always be controversial, but if it is within the Rules some Club's are going to use it. The game itself has created it, it is up to the powers that be to end it. As I said, if it stays in place, you can't blame a Club for using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairfolly Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Agree Gooleboy, but do any of them have any ambition to reach S.L. Toronto,Toulouse and maybe Leigh have that ambition,although I would doubt very much that Leigh would be accepted. The rest I would assume would be sensible enough to realise that at the moment S.L. would be a massive gamble by them.Maybe within a couple of seasons a club like York with their new stadium might possibly take the plunge but the rest including Bradford would put themselves at serious risk of overstretching their means.Bradford might disagree but personally I would like to see them consolidate for three or four seasons before taking the gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyship Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, fairfolly said: A bigger question, can anybody see any of those clubs depending on D/R this season being allowed into S.L. next season if they are fortunate enough to get the chance.? Face facts here, if D/R was not allowed this season where would the vast majority of them be. All in the bottom half of the league,that is where. Possibly- or using loans instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyship Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: York aren't dual registered with anyone in 2019. They were dual registered with Hull KR in 2017 and 2018 though. Cheers Gav - wasn’t sure if it had carried on into this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyship Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said: Dewsbury are not in DR though we have had a couple of Wakefield loan players for most of the season. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, fairfolly said: Agree Gooleboy, but do any of them have any ambition to reach S.L. Toronto,Toulouse and maybe Leigh have that ambition,although I would doubt very much that Leigh would be accepted. The rest I would assume would be sensible enough to realise that at the moment S.L. would be a massive gamble by them.Maybe within a couple of seasons a club like York with their new stadium might possibly take the plunge but the rest including Bradford would put themselves at serious risk of overstretching their means.Bradford might disagree but personally I would like to see them consolidate for three or four seasons before taking the gamble. Fair points, but you have to remember this arrangement suits the SL Clubs. So to deny a Club entry to the SL would be very hypocritical. As you say it might be a massive gamble for a Club to go up who have used DR, but if they want to have a go, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Setter Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Apparently Widnes will be Warrington’s new DR club. Makes sense for both parties, and Widnes have some decent youth talent to share the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairfolly Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Well if it is to be believed that next season all S.L. clubs have to have a reserve team and an academy I would think that would do away with D/R and severly restrict loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 To be honest I’m not a big fan of dr but it does give clubs without a rich owner a chance of a level playing field. Personally I disagree with clubs having owners putting hundreds of thousands of pounds into clubs every year, these clubs are basically unsustainable as they cannot operate within their means. This means they get the pick of players and it gives them an unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Makes you wonder how different the league table would be without DR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Cardypaul said: To be honest I’m not a big fan of dr but it does give clubs without a rich owner a chance of a level playing field. Personally I disagree with clubs having owners putting hundreds of thousands of pounds into clubs every year, these clubs are basically unsustainable as they cannot operate within their means. This means they get the pick of players and it gives them an unfair advantage. I think we would all like a wealthy owner, it does give the rich Clubs an advantage, but that is how it is in most sports. If they lost the backer they would have to try and cut their cloth accordingly like any other Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 DR is a complete farce. Mandatory reserve grade for all is the way forward. If people disagree... so it must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Get shot of it . Distorts the leagues and gives clubs an excuse to run with a smaller squad and stock up on DR . Can’t be good , level playing field stand on your own two feet with you’re own identity and own players , and everyone knows what you’ve got . Players coming n going week by week . We used this for a few seasons but not lately and experience was very mixed and often not good and destabilising . Get a squad and let’s see how the league pans out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: I think we would all like a wealthy owner, it does give the rich Clubs an advantage, but that is how it is in most sports. If they lost the backer they would have to try and cut their cloth accordingly like any other Club. How many clubs have already hit trouble spending money they haven’t got, even football with its financial fair play rules have recognised it is an outdated concept that doesn’t work for the game as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cardypaul said: How many clubs have already hit trouble spending money they haven’t got, even football with its financial fair play rules have recognised it is an outdated concept that doesn’t work for the game as a whole Loads of them, and I am sure there will be more, not just in RL. An ex Football Club owner who was a very successful Businessman once told me, and his Club played in the English top division, that because of the emotions involved in Sport the the Business acumen sometimes goes out of the window as the Fan in you can cloud decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANO Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gav Wilson said: York aren't dual registered with anyone in 2019. They were dual registered with Hull KR in 2017 and 2018 though. Thought we had a dr agreement with Coventry sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Toulouse got that Jodie Broughton chap for one game from Catalans, so does that mean they have a D/R with them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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