John WP Fan Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, superten said: Why not take it to Canada or the USA Too soon. That will be a good idea when there are a few well-established teams over here (maybe 10 years from now). Until then it would be too hard to draw a good enough crowd here for this great event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boriston Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Dublin would be my preferred city for The Magic Weekend, what say you chaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbals Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr Wind Up said: Yeah marked for NFL but not permanently. Can easily be changed. It is artificial, but it’s probably a hybrid, although Im not sure. I do know Saracens RU team have signed a multi year deal to play games there, so I suspect it’s a good kind of artificial turf. Unless Spurs are letting them use grass once a season. I think it's 100% artificial. It spends most of its time under the grass pitch (a hybrid itself), so I can't see how a hybrid could work But surely you could play on an artificial pitch anyway? I'd definitely go to MW if it was at Spurs, although it would be far too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, scotchy1 said: I think the London stadium would be pretty much perfect for the magic weekend. Plenty of space for a Fan Park, a fair few hotels around, good connections. a few bars/restaurants around in the Westfield. Id love to go to the new spurs stadium and will probably go to an NFL game in 2020 but whilst it looks a wonderful stadium im not sure there is a whole heap of stuff around It’s an awful, awful stadium with poor sight of the pitch, there’s absolutely nothing around the ground, Westfield is about welcoming as Donald Trump at a left wing party and there’s absolutely no cover in case of poor weather for fan parks. It would kill the Magic Weekend dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Magic Weekend shouldn’t have moved away from Newcastle. The game in the North East is going from strength to strength, hosting a marquee event can only help that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Magic Weekend shouldn’t have moved away from Newcastle. The game in the North East is going from strength to strength, hosting a marquee event can only help that. This. Magic in Newcastle should have become a key part of the RL calendar as Old Trafford and the Grand Final and Wembley and the Challenge Cup has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Family supporter Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Best place for fans and new support is newcastle. Plenty of places to stay and awesome friendliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 It's a long shot, but how about splitting between two grounds? Apparently Bolton and Bury may be available? I'll fetch me coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggyq Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 23/07/2019 at 22:07, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Magic Weekend shouldn’t have moved away from Newcastle. The game in the North East is going from strength to strength, hosting a marquee event can only help that. Have to agree, the venue and city seem tailor made for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Cardiff in August would be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Cardiff in August would be brilliant. Probably the only option that time of year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: Probably the only option that time of year True. I cannot see a football team allowing their pitch to be used as heavily for two days so soon into their season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think Magic needs a complete rethink. The idea was to spread the game in new areas, has it achieved this ? If you get the six games and figure out the attendances if those matches were played in a normal round and compare to Magic actual attendances, how do they stack up ? Are more people going, or is it the usual loyal fan core. It also unbalances the fixtures further. Why not have Magic as Challenge Cup QF event. Two games each day, plus a third from Championship. The two championship matches decided on a voluntary basis, whatever clubs are happy losing a home fixture to play at Magic. If there aren't two volunteer clubs then we offer league 1 clubs a place at magic! What a great day out that'll be for a small club. As for a venue, lets hold it in an area of the country where Union holds sway, not exactly in their area, but close by, where you have oval ball enthusiasts, Bristol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Saint Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, HawkMan said: I think Magic needs a complete rethink. The idea was to spread the game in new areas, has it achieved this ? If you get the six games and figure out the attendances if those matches were played in a normal round and compare to Magic actual attendances, how do they stack up ? Are more people going, or is it the usual loyal fan core. It also unbalances the fixtures further. Why not have Magic as Challenge Cup QF event. Two games each day, plus a third from Championship. The two championship matches decided on a voluntary basis, whatever clubs are happy losing a home fixture to play at Magic. If there aren't two volunteer clubs then we offer league 1 clubs a place at magic! What a great day out that'll be for a small club. As an idea for a venue, this is a bit out of left field, but thousands of fans weekly cross the Irish Sea for the footy, mainly to Merseyside, what about Windsor Park Belfast, holds about 30,000. A great atmosphere and a Magic venue packed to the rafters. HawkMan, as much as I would love Rugby League to come to Belfast, Windsor Park capacity is only 18,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Park The home of the other code is The Kingspan (Ravenhill) another 18,000 capacity stadium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenhill_Stadium Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor but because we cannot satisfy the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Irish Saint said: HawkMan, as much as I would love Rugby League to come to Belfast, Windsor Park capacity is only 18,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Park Yeah I realised my error and deleted that. However NI is U.K. is RL.played there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Saint Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 There are a few die hards mostly Union blokes who do it to keep fit. Even as a fan I am sneered at by some not surprising when this is how an ex British & Irish Lions captain was treated. https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/lions/lions-earn-70k-but-ulsterman-thompson-finished-up-in-the-red-35835058.html But never say never, no-one would have believed Ice Hockey would ever have taken off in Belfast but with investment and the right promotion the Belfast Giants have become very successful. Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor but because we cannot satisfy the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 MW has run its course. With the CC Final shifting to July, I’d cancel the MW; remove the imbalance in fixtures meaning teams play each other twice during the regular season. Invest the money spent on the MW in the CC instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Magic is nothing more than six games played in a random stadium, there’s nothing extra or different about it. For a so-called Festival of the sport, it’s a pretty poor festival and there needs to be more done to make it about more than just games of Rugby League. I’d go big and adopt the French idea of making it a round where you get more points for a win than your standard weekly rounds, for a start. That gives every game a bigger feel straight away. It can potentially have a major effect on a league table. I’d have a variety of bands and DJ’s playing throughout the day, both inside the stadium and outside instead of having the incoherent duo of Simmons and Godwin (I was in BoxPark at Wembley on Saturday, what an embarrassment that was) stood on the back of a float in a car park. Food and drink outside of the ground is important. Have street food stalls instead of your standard anaemic burgers and hot dogs you get, get different bars involved offering more than lukewarm flat beer, have gin bars, cocktail bars etc. Magic could be RL’s T20 or Nines tournament where you attract people outside of your everyday RL fan but we fail to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Magic is nothing more than six games played in a random stadium, there’s nothing extra or different about it. For a so-called Festival of the sport, it’s a pretty poor festival and there needs to be more done to make it about more than just games of Rugby League. I’d go big and adopt the French idea of making it a round where you get more points for a win than your standard weekly rounds, for a start. That gives every game a bigger feel straight away. It can potentially have a major effect on a league table. I’d have a variety of bands and DJ’s playing throughout the day, both inside the stadium and outside instead of having the incoherent duo of Simmons and Godwin (I was in BoxPark at Wembley on Saturday, what an embarrassment that was) stood on the back of a float in a car park. Food and drink outside of the ground is important. Have street food stalls instead of your standard anaemic burgers and hot dogs you get, get different bars involved offering more than lukewarm flat beer, have gin bars, cocktail bars etc. Magic could be RL’s T20 or Nines tournament where you attract people outside of your everyday RL fan but we fail to do so. The best fan zone we ever had was Murrayfield, at that time we had loads of partners, we used the fields outside for food and drink, plus there was a legends tournament. There was plenty of stuff to do. The Newcastle fan zone was pathetic and no effort at all, just like everything else at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmichaelsays Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, HawkMan said: The idea was to spread the game in new areas, I'm amazed this myth has persisted for so long. The original idea behind Magic Weekend was to fill hotel beds in South Wales. That's why it came into being. Yes, there is probably a statement knocking around somewhere featuring the word "expansion" because it's a more palatable message to the fans than "the Welsh tourism industry chucked £1m at us", but expansion is way down the list of reasons why we do Magic. Arguing that Magic is about expansion is simply a mechanism for people to give the concept an unreasonable objective so that they can later argue that it is a failure, when it's far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Tim Whatley Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 22/07/2019 at 21:31, Gooleboy said: It's not nice being sent to Coventry! It has got a great market though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superten Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think we should scrap magic weekend and summer bash . We should concentrate all our efforts in getting the Challenge Cup back to where it belongs . Should just have the two big events Super league grand final and Challenge Cup final . Bring back the championship and league one final day and the 1895 cup final day . Chief Crazy Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, superten said: I think we should scrap magic weekend and summer bash . We should concentrate all our efforts in getting the Challenge Cup back to where it belongs . Should just have the two big events Super league grand final and Challenge Cup final . Bring back the championship and league one final day and the 1895 cup final day . I love the magic weekend but equally i dont disagree with the above but i think you can do both... ie Magic becomes the round of 16... 8 matches 4 per day. more fans so more chance to pack out, gets some of the smaller clubs to be part of the "grand day out" too. Never been to the summer bash so cant really comment on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superten Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, RP London said: I love the magic weekend but equally i dont disagree with the above but i think you can do both... ie Magic becomes the round of 16... 8 matches 4 per day. more fans so more chance to pack out, gets some of the smaller clubs to be part of the "grand day out" too. Never been to the summer bash so cant really comment on that one. the problem with inviting none super league clubs is the fact that super league teams wouldn't want to share tv and gate receipts Chief Crazy Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR23 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Scrap Magic, scrap the cup final at Wembley and move it up north, scrap expansion, bin playoffs, ban foreign players, don’t bother with any innovation of any sort.........this is a local sport for local people don’t you know. I’m not saying every suggested idea for change should be embraced but the current trend suggests that RL fans are becoming more and more inward looking and insular. Anfield was ok but I’d favour a move back to either Newcastle or Cardiff. London won’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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