Lowdesert Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Bevan French goes like brown stuff off a stick and I’d argue is an upgrade on all the wingers above, some of who may be released. Haven't seen him play this year at all. 3 years ago he was scoring well but since then hes tailed off. Í don't think he will add anything to what they already have out wide. Maybe FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I'm hoping he's a bit of an Amos Roberts (but without getting injured...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Allora said: You would be an expert on the NRL then Davo5? You actually know not much at all looking at the drivel you post. Wigan were a big Club in England, not sure if they still are..... They would be on par with West Tigers in the NRL. No expert just a fan but seeing how you seem to find every excuse not to attend matches and have previously stated you have little interest in some NRL clubs,I'd bet I have a better understanding of it than you. Hmm I'm pretty sure Wigan are the current Superleague champions and were world club champions only a couple of years ago,on the other hand Parra have won what since the early 80s ?? they can hope to get on a par with Wests I suppose. Nice editing by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, Davo5 said: No expert just a fan but seeing how you seem to find every excuse not to attend matches and have previously stated you have little interest in some NRL clubs,I'd bet I have a better understanding of it than you.. Hmm I'm pretty sure Wigan are the current Superleague champions and were world club champions only a couple of years ago,on the other hand Parra have won what since the early 80s ?? they can hope to get on a par with Wests I suppose. Nice editing by the way. Should I have interest in every NRL Club, why? I bet you wouldn't I was editing my post before you put your reply and silly confused smiley up. Parramatta have slightly more difficult opposition than some of the also ran Clubs in Super League that barely compete or hang in there season to season. How many Clubs are competitive regularly In Super League, 4, 6 at best? I would put my money on Parramatta versus Wigan every day of the week to win 90% of the time Anyway I am out, what do they say about arguing or debating with idiots...... Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Tonka said: Burgess has the physique of a centre and isn't as fast as he was, but I don't think he's got the skills. I can see Hardaker being bumped up to centre. I agree ref Burgess but if you put Hardaker to centre and French to FB, you also weaken your side - French isn’t an organiser, nor a strong defender. He’s very much in the Adam Quinlan mould Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 To be fair I haven't seen much of French - highlights reels mostly and they don't show much about organizing or defence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Escare to be sold, French to 1, Hardaker in the centres and any two of the four or five decent wingers Wigan have. Can't argue with that however very disappointed to see Escare falling from grace so quickly after 2018 Grand Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Man of Kent said: French’s pace will be lethal in SL but, yeah, Burgess will be retained and probably play on the left. I’d imagine Dom Manfredi’s head is on the chopping block and Tom Davies isn’t exactly world class. With a reserve grade surely clubs can operate with a far bigger squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jao 711 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Allora said: You would be an expert on the NRL then Davo5? If that was the case why is he languishing in reserve grade and no other NRL Clubs coming in for him? You actually don't appear to know much at all looking at the drivel you post. Wigan were a big Club in England, not sure if they still are..... who are they competing against? Wakefield, London, Hull KR and Huddersfield? Must be tough at the top. They would be on par with West Tigers in the NRL on a good day. You certainly don’t seem to be an expert on the Super League,try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 In the Wigan Evening Post, Lam says that he doesn’t know where he will play him yet, but lists as possibilities 1, with Hardaker moving to the centres, 6, where apparently he has shone in reserve grade in Oz, or the wing if we have a lot of injuries there. Seems a bit odd to me for French to come all this way with no clear intention of his own, but there is some logic from our perspective. I think he will be great for us wherever he plays, As Ray French (his uncle) said apropos of Joe Lydon “there’s no excuse for pace”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said: In the Wigan Evening Post, Lam says that he doesn’t know where he will play him yet, but lists as possibilities 1, with Hardaker moving to the centres, 6, where apparently he has shone in reserve grade in Oz, or the wing if we have a lot of injuries there. Seems a bit odd to me for French to come all this way with no clear intention of his own, but there is some logic from our perspective. I think he will be great for us wherever he plays, As Ray French (his uncle) said apropos of Joe Lydon “there’s no excuse for pace”. I'm really annoyed with myself for googling to see if Ray French is Bevan French's uncle! "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said: In the Wigan Evening Post, Lam says that he doesn’t know where he will play him yet, but lists as possibilities 1, with Hardaker moving to the centres, 6, where apparently he has shone in reserve grade in Oz, or the wing if we have a lot of injuries there. Seems a bit odd to me for French to come all this way with no clear intention of his own, but there is some logic from our perspective. I think he will be great for us wherever he plays, As Ray French (his uncle) said apropos of Joe Lydon “there’s no excuse for pace”. At this stage of the season and with Wigan's injury record this year a back with pace to burn who can play a few positions seems like a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said: In the Wigan Evening Post, Lam says that he doesn’t know where he will play him yet, but lists as possibilities 1, with Hardaker moving to the centres, 6, where apparently he has shone in reserve grade in Oz, or the wing if we have a lot of injuries there. Seems a bit odd to me for French to come all this way with no clear intention of his own, but there is some logic from our perspective. I think he will be great for us wherever he plays, As Ray French (his uncle) said apropos of Joe Lydon “there’s no excuse for pace”. Moving Hardaker to the centres would be good from an England perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Moving Hardaker to the centres would be good from an England perspective. Why ? He's not a centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, Davo5 said: Why ? He's not a centre. If he played centre he would be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Why ? He's not a centre. Hardaker was expected to play centre at the World Cup instead of John Bateman, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tonka said: If he played centre he would be... So why would it be good news for England when his handful of appearences there during his career have been underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackojacko Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Hardaker has been disappointing at centre every time he's played there, it would be a bit of a waste. If he's gone well at 6 then pairing him with Hastings in the halves could be a nice combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 29/07/2019 at 09:06, Allora said: He has struggled to break into a team that has been in the wrong half of the competition for the previous two years. Have Parramatta missed something? I think he's been unfortunate that that the people in his position seem to be playing well. Ferguson worked his way back into Origin, Gutherson and Sivo have been quite consistent IMO. I think Paramattas forwards lack a bit of steel and Moses can be very much rocks and diamonds at times hence the inconsistent form. French's size has always been an issue which is much more exposed in the NRL. He will have more space in SL which will do him wonders. I personally think in an environment like Melbourne French could be one of the top try scorers in the league. I think his lack of size can mentally get the better of him hence goes missing in games. I good people coach like Craig Bellamy could correct that but I think wit the wealth of talent in the outside backs in the NRL it wasn't worth a club taking the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Hardaker was expected to play centre at the World Cup instead of John Bateman, I believe. That sentence is a damning statement on our centre stocks ... or how Bennett sees them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, DavidM said: That sentence is a damning statement on our centre stocks ... or how Bennett sees them ! He played centre for Penrith to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner80 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Man of Kent said: He played centre for Penrith to be fair I think Zak may not be picked for England even if in good form given his off field actions down the years. As it is at Centre we don't have alot of options so a Back Row or Zak may make sense. With French, as mentioned above he may even turn up at 6 as that raw pace always creates options or he may be a impact player off the bench ala Escare last year. Wigan may have got him on a very good deal as he wants to be with a club who are highly regarded in the NRL so to get back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Man of Kent said: He played centre for Penrith to be fair Not very often and not very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Hardaker was good for leeds in the centres for a while until he moved to FB. This signing would suggest either Burgess or Hardaker moving into the centres to make way for French unless one of the many wingers makes way. Good signing in any case, potential to be really exciting. Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Man of Kent said: He played centre for Penrith to be fair He put a Centres shirt on but, to be fair, didn’t do it justice. I hoped he would do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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