WHATS GOING ON AT ODSAL

[Spidey]

5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Just as an aside how much more lively does the pitch look compared to today. Love to see full pitch numbers and the team crest painted on rather than a rather mundane set of white lines.

It’s not 100m long though

[Blind side johnny]

4 hours ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

I think it was mentioned that they have agreed a 50/50 split on food and drink sales at Bulls games.

Now I read in an announcement that they were going to share concession income. It's surprising just how many people read "share" and assume 50/50 isn't it?

[Trojan]

1 hour ago, thepimp007 said:

What on earth has the money side of things got to do with what I said? I’m not talking the money just saying it’s laughable teams in the locality cried the poor tale about Bradford poaching fans while doing next to nothing to get fans in their area through the door.

typical sit and wait nature of the sport no wonder it won’t go anywhere other than where it is now.

And where did it take Bradford?

[Wellsy4HullFC]

6 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

Remind me how long most professional and semi professional Rugby League clubs have been going?

They are not exactly new business's are they

So you're saying they don't need to spend anymore money because the club has been going a while?

If you're not, I don't exactly get your point? Do they not need to speculate to accumulate?

[paul hicks]

7 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

Remind me how long most professional and semi professional Rugby League clubs have been going?

They are not exactly new business's are they

it could be argued that a number are run nothing like a business when you see the mess they get into

[paul hicks]

7 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

I can't see Dewsbury letting the Bulls keep all revenue from the bar and catering on Bulls match days.

In fact i can't see Dewsbury letting any of the revenue from the bar and catering go to the Bulls, not unless the Bulls pay a up front fee for the use of the bar and catering facilities.

I can see an arrangement been made over hospitality catering were Dewsbury sell meals to Bradford who then sell them on at an increased price but the actual profit for Bradford would be much lower

[paul hicks]

6 hours ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

I think it was mentioned that they have agreed a 50/50 split on food and drink sales at Bulls games.

that would of course if true be on the profit not the sale price

[Stan Doffarf]

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about Bradford supposedly 'poaching' fans from other clubs. I doubt that ever happened, at least on any significant scale. 

Any business has a perfect right to promote its offer in any location. It's entirely possible that some fans of (for want of a better expression) lower ranked clubs would choose to watch elite level RL whilst also supporting their own club. I remember talking to a lovely couple from Batley who came to Odsal to watch Glen Tomlinson. Didn't stop them supporting Batley.

If a sports club loses support in its own community, surely it should be doing its best to put that right, not complaining that another sports club is doing the job better than they are. If you're content with mediocrity, don't be too surprised if your supporters, or potential supporters,  vote with their feet. Many lower league soccer clubs will know all about this, as the Premier League clubs draw their support from far and wide. It's a much smaller world than it used to be, and the days when sports watchers were restricted to their own community are long gone. It can be argued that this is a bad thing, but it's a fact nevertheless.

[fairfolly]

Blimey Paul you really are an Einstein.Good thinking , I bet nobody else has thought of that.

[Odsal Outlaw]

3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Now I read in an announcement that they were going to share concession income. It's surprising just how many people read "share" and assume 50/50 isn't it?

[paul hicks]

2 hours ago, fairfolly said:

Blimey Paul you really are an Einstein.Good thinking , I bet nobody else has thought of that.

I

[Odsal Outlaw]

33 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueMan said:

Yes totally agree. I've been on at the RFL for years about this. Why haven't they/Super League/clubs taken on the initiative of marking out pitches properly and the benefits of pitch sponsorship? Even marking pitch numbers gives better presentation to TV audiences. NRL/ARL/NSWRL have been doing it since the 80s!

Even clubs that share with other sports can still do that as the paint used these days can be quickly removed from turf or marked over in green. Again apathy in British RL is shocking.

Worst case SL could use the digital graphics to show some of the sponsorship/logos on the pitch for TV as they do in NRL.

[Phil]

On 15/08/2019 at 14:26, paulwalker71 said:

It's potentially viable.

1. Very close to Odsal - just over a mile, probably a 20 minute walk

2. It's in Bradford, which really matters to a lot of supporters

3. Has apparently already been pre-approved by the RFL

4. It would only take a temporary grandstand to take the capacity up over 4000

5. Plenty of space to expand and improve the stadium

6. The owner of the football club seems willing to accommodate. 

It's not ideal, far from it. But it can be made viable.

The local area can’t cope with parking when BPA are at home, it won’t manage the bulls 

[Mr Plow]

40 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Worst case SL could use the digital graphics to show some of the sponsorship/logos on the pitch for TV as they do in NRL.

They’ve done it in the past with Betfred logo don’t see why they don’t do it every game

[thepimp007]

6 hours ago, Trojan said:

And where did it take Bradford?

Again not saying it took them anywhere. They must have enticed a few over though for the sheer outrage people bang on about.

rightly or wrongly it worked. Teams can’t moan if they don’t promote their club in their own area

[GUBRATS]

1 minute ago, thepimp007 said:

Again not saying it took them anywhere. They must have enticed a few over though for the sheer outrage people bang on about.

rightly or wrongly it worked. Teams can’t moan if they don’t promote their club in their own area

And you know for a fact these clubs didn't ? , Or do you mean they couldn't offer free tickets like the Bulls did because they were operating as a business and not spending money they didn't have ?

[Blind side johnny]

5 hours ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Oh, in that case it must be true then.

He wouldn't by any slight chance have an axe to grind would he?

[Odsal Outlaw]

5 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said:

Oh, in that case it must be true then.

He wouldn't by any slight chance have an axe to grind would he?

I was waiting for the first person to highlight the source

[lucky 7]

18 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

So you're saying they don't need to spend anymore money because the club has been going a while?

If you're not, I don't exactly get your point? Do they not need to speculate to accumulate?

My point is that a majority of professional and semi professional have been going for over 100 years and still struggle to break even.

Look at your club and the financial trouble they were in and Gateshead had to be sacrificed to save the Black and Whites. Now how long has your club been professional or semi professional?

[paul hicks]

On 18/08/2019 at 12:13, Wellsy4HullFC said:

So you're saying they don't need to spend anymore money because the club has been going a while?

If you're not, I don't exactly get your point? Do they not need to speculate to accumulate?

it would be a matter of just how much you put into speculating I suppose . you can not spend more than you can afford and you only need to look at Bradford for proof of that

[thepimp007]

On 18/08/2019 at 18:18, GUBRATS said:

And you know for a fact these clubs didn't ? , Or do you mean they couldn't offer free tickets like the Bulls did because they were operating as a business and not spending money they didn't have ?

Again fans can not help but to bring the money debate into a simple discussion of tempting fans from outside the boundary.

Im sorry but a Leigh fan has no room to talk after the way a heap of players were dumped on from a great height

[Harry Stottle]

41 minutes ago, thepimp007 said:

Again fans can not help but to bring the money debate into a simple discussion of tempting fans from outside the boundary.

Im sorry but a Leigh fan has no room to talk after the way a heap of players were dumped on from a great height

If you had witnessed what that group of player's gave back for the money they were recieving week on week which was a lot (1.68M ) you would most probably be a little more sympathetic with your criticism, honestly pimp it was depressing and near tantamount to stealing from some if those players.

[GUBRATS]

58 minutes ago, thepimp007 said:

Again fans can not help but to bring the money debate into a simple discussion of tempting fans from outside the boundary.

Im sorry but a Leigh fan has no room to talk after the way a heap of players were dumped on from a great height

I don't disagree with your point on Leigh's behaviour last season , but also you asking why those clubs running as a business on a shoestring didn't market themselves better to their local populace is not really on , they may well have done within the restrictions of their finances , but they haven't since gone cap in hand to the RFL and then into administration , have they ?

[thepimp007]

21 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

If you had witnessed what that group of player's gave back for the money they were recieving week on week which was a lot (1.68M ) you would most probably be a little more sympathetic with your criticism, honestly pimp it was depressing and near tantamount to stealing from some if those players.

I totally understand, they were massively underperforming. I am sorry if it was a little heavy but money gets dragged in all the time even if its a perated point about the club when its painly obviously for the world to see the bulls have been horrendous on that part

[fairfolly]

Gubrats,

              Please explain your "cap in hand " statement. And for all other posters belittling Bradford for spending more than they take in,just how many of the other 37 clubs made a profit last season. How many budgeted for the " sugar daddies money".I would guess not many made a profit, and the whole lot with "a sugar daddy" would have gone to the wall if they had not come forward and backed them up.