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I think this might be the test that does for Root.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Just now, Just Browny said:

I think this might be the test that does for Root.

You can’t stand at first slip if you’re going to miss catches like that. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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11 minutes ago, ckn said:

Two tests and we break him ...

That happens when your workhorse is a fast bowler operating on 27 overs rest ...

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6 minutes ago, DavidM said:

If we had 11 with the attitude of Stokesy marra we’d win most games . Heroic effort he puts in 

How many wickets has he taken?

How many runs did he get?

Are the others not trying?

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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

How many wickets has he taken?

How many runs did he get?

Are the others not trying?

He took two wickets. Had two dropped catches off his bowling.

His own dismissal was a disgrace though, and his bowling was poor in the first innings. The back up bowling is a big difference between the two teams 

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There is a global problem in Test cricket, which is an unusually strong problem in England.  

White ball cricket is the priority.   In England this is an openly stated strategy, to the extent that First Class cricket is shunted out of the way like an embarrassing elderly relative in favour of the ECBs daft ideas.

You can’t expect batsman to focus on white ball cricket and then suddenly be able to bat for hours in a Test match.  

England’s (and to a lesser extent Australia’s) batting fragility is not down to individual failures by the players.  

It’s systemic and it’s there by design.  

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15 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Are the others not trying?

To many either not good enough  or not attuned mentally to what they need to do . He is , and his bare results don’t always tell the full tale . He could have had a bagful there and went on and on without wilting an inch 

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12 minutes ago, Steve May said:

There is a global problem in Test cricket, which is an unusually strong problem in England.  

White ball cricket is the priority.   In England this is an openly stated strategy, to the extent that First Class cricket is shunted out of the way like an embarrassing elderly relative in favour of the ECBs daft ideas.

You can’t expect batsman to focus on white ball cricket and then suddenly be able to bat for hours in a Test match.  

England’s (and to a lesser extent Australia’s) batting fragility is not down to individual failures by the players.  

It’s systemic and it’s there by design.  

All this.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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We wanted to win the WC in that four year cycle ... now there’s a world test championship ! Big about turn . We’ve been immersed in the one day mentality and the domestic structure and scheduling hardly helps us pull it back 

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21 minutes ago, DavidM said:

We wanted to win the WC in that four year cycle ... now there’s a world test championship ! Big about turn . We’ve been immersed in the one day mentality and the domestic structure and scheduling hardly helps us pull it back 

On TMS earlier today Michael Vaughan pointed out that there were back to back Ashes series in 2013/14 in order to avoid having the Ashes in a World Cup year. 

Sometimes I suspect cricket administrators look up to rugby league administrators as paragons of competence. 

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1 hour ago, Steve May said:

There is a global problem in Test cricket, which is an unusually strong problem in England.  

White ball cricket is the priority.   In England this is an openly stated strategy, to the extent that First Class cricket is shunted out of the way like an embarrassing elderly relative in favour of the ECBs daft ideas.

You can’t expect batsman to focus on white ball cricket and then suddenly be able to bat for hours in a Test match.  

England’s (and to a lesser extent Australia’s) batting fragility is not down to individual failures by the players.  

It’s systemic and it’s there by design.  

Do you think it is global?

Usually the test teams and one day teams consist of different players. 

So for Australia the captain Aaron Finch opens prolifically in one day cricket yet isn't really considered for the tests. Glenn Maxwell is another one day specialist. The bowlers are different players also. 

Marus Labuschagne is a good cricketer in both forms, but has only represented Australia in tests. He made centuries here for Glamorgan. 

I dont know if the England team varies much from the one day side, but a country should be able to field a competitive standard at both forms of the game.

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56 minutes ago, DavidM said:

We wanted to win the WC in that four year cycle ... now there’s a world test championship ! Big about turn . We’ve been immersed in the one day mentality and the domestic structure and scheduling hardly helps us pull it back 

But the same people who have immersed 'us' in the one day mentality have also absolute control over the domestic structure and scheduling.

And they've decided we need The Hundred.

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Three Aussies from this side played in the WC semi , seven from England . We’ve basically transplanted a side and told them to adapt - fast - whereas the Aussies have had some guys prepped for this . This has been 18 years in the making for them .

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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

But the same people who have immersed 'us' in the one day mentality have also absolute control over the domestic structure and scheduling.

And they've decided we need The Hundred.

I’ve not met many other people who think we need the hundred tbh

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