18 Aug: SL: Huddersfield Giants v Castleford Tigers KO 3pm

[John Drake]

Discuss Huddersfield Giants v Castleford Tigers here.

[muckymunksy]

Huddersfield By 10 

[longboard]

10 hours ago, muckymunksy said:

Huddersfield By 10 

I hope you are right mucky....

[Chronicler of Chiswick]

Cas by 12.

[rleaguer]

Some in depth analysis on this thread  

In all reality god knows, two poor out of form teams

[Loiner]

Hopefully Cas by loads.

[meast]

"Depleted" Giants reserves to cause another upset and move a step closer to safety

[Charlie RL]

Wins by Salford and London make  this so important for both these teams hopes.

Not seen the Giant squad but feel they have enough big game players who need to step up and can win this.

[meast]

1 hour ago, Charlie RL said:

Wins by Salford and London make  this so important for both these teams hopes.

Not seen the Giant squad but feel they have enough big game players who need to step up and can win this.

Not really, we've got a squad mainly of reserves and academy lads

[Charlie RL]

Some decent Hudds players listed on BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/49333428

Watts missing for cas?

[meast]

6 minutes ago, Charlie RL said:

Some decent Hudds players listed on BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/49333428

Watts missing for cas?

I.Senior, L.Senior, Jake Wardle, Russell, Hewitt, Wilson are all recent academy graduates, not to mention English who can't play this week, Holmes has played 4 games since being recalled from a loan spell at Featherstone, Walne has only played 3 times since a bad injury in the first week of the season, Roberts and Ikahihifo have been bit part players this season.

Big, big ask for the giants!

[GeordieSaint]

MUST win for Huddersfield...

[Denton Rovers RLFC]

Cas need to win to give them a good chance of making the 5, I think them by 12

[Denton Rovers RLFC]

0-4 currently

[Old Frightful]

Hudds 0 Cas 10.

[Wildcat]

Full Time 0 - 24.

Bad loss for Hudds. 

[fieldofclothofgold]

Anything can happen in the next 3 games 

[GeordieSaint]

Massive win for Cas that to stay in the hunt for the play offs.

[Man of Kent]

Pathetic by Huddersfield to be nilled at home twice in succession. Something’s gone badly wrong there, and I don’t mean the cowbells 

[meast]

54 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Pathetic by Huddersfield to be nilled at home twice in succession. Something’s gone badly wrong there, and I don’t mean the cowbells 

Even they appear to have given up.

Today was depressing, I'm usually fairly positive, but the only positive i can find from today is that Cas weren't at their best and so it was "only" 24-0!

We look totally devoid of ideas, we have zero creativity, some of the players appear to be going through the motions to have their contracts null and voided, part of me is now thinking relegation may not be so bad after all, obviously, presuming we are sound financially.

I feel for Ken, i feel for Simon and i feel for the young lads who have been thrown in at the deep end and are receiving very little help from the senior pro's around them, I sat through the game almost disinterested, i have rarely felt like that in 30 years of supporting Huddersfield.

I just want this season to end tonight.

[Stirk]

I actually think from the very top. the Giants are seeking relegation, as Thewlis has said on many occasions the giants don’t want a reserve team. And Thewlis is a big part of the problem at the giants. Relegation means they don’t have to have a reserve grade, the cynic in me thinks Ken Davey is winding the club up to make it cheaper to run on a part time basis in the championship or even league 1. This will be the last year the Giants perform in super league....

[Charlie RL]

28 minutes ago, meast said:

for Ken, i feel for Simon and i feel for the young lads who have been thrown in at the deep end and are receiving very little help from the senior pro's around them, 

Sadly you gave good answers to my earlier posts asking players to step up and were proved correct. 

[Harry Stottle]

3 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Pathetic by Huddersfield to be nilled at home twice in succession. Something’s gone badly wrong there, and I don’t mean the cowbells 

What in your opinion has gone wrong then? for me it is Simon Woolford, he may technically be a good coach but when he opens his mouth can anyone really take him seriously. There are people who by the power of their voice can get their point across even if not coherently, then there are those who no matter how much sense they speak no one listens because they sound so dull, unfortunately after hearing him in pre and  post match interviews on the TV Simon fits perfectly in that category, shame not his fault but it is a way of life.

[Man of Kent]

26 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

What in your opinion has gone wrong then? for me it is Simon Woolford, he may technically be a good coach but when he opens his mouth can anyone really take him seriously. There are people who by the power of their voice can get their point across even if not coherently, then there are those who no matter how much sense they speak no one listens because they sound so dull, unfortunately after hearing him in pre and  post match interviews on the TV Simon fits perfectly in that category, shame not his fault but it is a way of life.

I can only speak of what I’ve seen on TV and one game at Ealing but to my eyes Huddersfield are the rugby equivalent of a Route 1 side.

They are a direct and powerful side but have all the imagination of a tub of lard.

Like with Steve Price, Woolford appears to have done a distance learning course in NRL-Approved Formulaic Rugby League-By-Numbers from the University of Woolloomooloo.

I can’t speak of Woolford’s man-management skills but if he’s lost the respect of the players who he needs to implement his dull rugby then it’s a pretty toxic mix. 

[longboard]

On 18/08/2019 at 18:19, meast said:

Even they appear to have given up.

Today was depressing, I'm usually fairly positive, but the only positive i can find from today is that Cas weren't at their best and so it was "only" 24-0!

We look totally devoid of ideas, we have zero creativity, some of the players appear to be going through the motions to have their contracts null and voided, part of me is now thinking relegation may not be so bad after all, obviously, presuming we are sound financially.

I feel for Ken, i feel for Simon and i feel for the young lads who have been thrown in at the deep end and are receiving very little help from the senior pro's around them, I sat through the game almost disinterested, i have rarely felt like that in 30 years of supporting Huddersfield.

I just want this season to end tonight.

It was certainly grim stuff to watch Martin. As you have posted,  the lack of creativity is worrying and it seems to have become more marked in recent games. Playing Gaskell at fullback is understandable but it makes it harder for him to influence the attacking side. There is so little creativity it appears to make it easy for the opposing teams to defend. The low risk style of rugby got Fartown up the pitch to a certain extent but little time was spent in Cas' twenty and hardly any pressure applied. The nerves and lack of confidence were evident in the number and kind of mistakes made in the second half. The team  lacks leaders and old heads who can influence the games sufficiently and consistently.   

Congratulations to Cas.