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As a neutral I thought he had a good game nice to see a ref and his linesmen calling foward passes.

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On 16/08/2019 at 17:46, Griff9of13 said:

I'd rather have Chris Kendall than several other refs at this level. He normally allows the games to flow and gets the balance right between letting things go and pinging every trivial offence.

I'd rather have any referee than any of the "know-it-alls" on fans forums who seem to take great delight in bagging the officials at every opportunity!

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As someone’s already said, get along to your local referee’s society and take up the whistle.

My wife said to me “you’re always slagging the refs off, here’s an advert in the paper to join em” so I did and 6 years later I’m running out to referee my first international match.

Just go for it 

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I'm really struggling to think of another sport where the players try and cheat and con the referee as much as Rugby League (at the top level anyway).

In football, we sometimes see players diving to try and win a foul or a penalty when there was no contact... this maybe happens 3 or 4 times a game. I remember when we used to laugh at football and all the cheating that went on.

In Rugby League now though, a player tries to con the ref in almost every tackle.  Whether that is locking another player into the tackle, stripping the ball, releasing ball to win a penalty or (as with Greg Bird yesterday) throwing himself to the ground to try and pretend he was on the end of a dangerous tackle.

We should be embarrassed about what our game has become and it is only when, as a sport, we are collectively embarrassed enough we will actually try and fix it.

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Rugby League requires the referee to make a decision on almost every tackle though - the player on player contact, holding down and offside require constant assessment and monitoring, and on each tackle there's up to 26 players spread 360 degrees around the ref who are looking to gain an advantage which the three officials don't see or don't judge worthy of penalising. It's a huge workload compared to a football referee.

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It happens far too much in rl,partly because of the reluctance of referees to use the sin bin early in the game and also because a penalty isn't much of a penalty. One side gains around 20 m ,whilst the offending side reorganises their defence.

Seven tavkles after kicking the ball dead has reduced some aimless kicking,so why not give seven or even eight tackles after a penalty. Equally,dont wait until the 75th min to sin bin someone,get them off after 10 mins,if the team offend 2/3 times at the tackle. Why dont the tv interviewers embarrass the coaches by asking a few of them,why their teams continually try and destroy the game. Is this the coaches tactics or are their instructions ignored,if so why does he keep picking that player?

Frankly,I'm sick to death with the number of penalties. There are now more in a game of league than many games of union. Do something about it.

 

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1 hour ago, cookey said:

Frankly,I'm sick to death with the number of penalties. There are now more in a game of league than many games of union. Do something about it.

 

I agree with this but there are far fewer penalties than there could be in a game.

Literally every single scrum and every single play the ball breaks the laws of the game... the ridiculous position we have put our referees in is not refereeing to the laws but asking them to provide some kind of judgement on how much unlawful play is acceptable. 

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On 15/08/2019 at 21:01, Kevin fatboy said:

3rd time at headingley and as bad as ever, the game is supposed to be about 2 teams but every time we end talking about how ###### he is, no way he is super league standard 

 first of all do you mean it was YOUR 3rd time at headingley because Kendal has been there a lot more times than that .

as a long time Leeds supporter I had no major issues with Kendal against st helens . 

yep he made a few mistakes but certainly nowhere near as many as the 34 players who entered the pitch .

seems its an extension of the find someone to blame/hate world we live in these days 

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22 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I agree with this but there are far fewer penalties than there could be in a game.

Literally every single scrum and every single play the ball breaks the laws of the game... the ridiculous position we have put our referees in is not refereeing to the laws but asking them to provide some kind of judgement on how much unlawful play is acceptable. 

 

21 minutes ago, Dave T said:

There should be a trial of something like every 5th penalty gives a yellow card, no matter the offence. A team punishment for infringing.

Agree with both of these and someone needs to do something about it ASAP. The players/coaches are literally ruining the game,by constant interferance at virtually every tackle. If the poor ref penalised every time,he would be criticised for spoiling the game and no doubt the coaches would blame the ref,rather than the players.

Yes,rather like basketball and it may be trialled in Union. Team penalties equals sin bin. So,whether its every fourth or fifth pen I dont care,but whoever commits the foul,for whatever reason,get him off after a set number of penalties.Only then might some coaches/players stop constantly spoiling the game.

As things stand,a penalty isn't sufficient penalty to stop players interferring,in the off chance that they might get away with it and get the ball back. Only way to stop it is an increased penalty,be it sin bin,additional tackles or whatever.

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36 minutes ago, paul hicks said:

 

yep he made a few mistakes but certainly nowhere near as many as the 34 players who entered the pitch .

 

This, 1,000 times this

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I would like to see any penalty conceded by the defending team in there 20mt zone give 8 tackles to the opposition followed by yellow cards for subsequent infringements during that play. Team's such as Melbourne are quite cynical about such offences, the team warning is rarely used as they know and Smith will question the decisions inevitably to gain time for the defence to set by immediately getting in the referee's face so play can't continue.?

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On 15/08/2019 at 21:01, Kevin fatboy said:

3rd time at headingley and as bad as ever, the game is supposed to be about 2 teams but every time we end talking about how ###### he is, no way he is super league standard 

Well come on then? What did he do wrong? I detest it when someone makes a statement like that and then can’t follow it up.

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Whatever happened to the team warning where the referee points at the offending team and waves his hand around in a circle . It used to get used a bit on sky games as there was always the discussion about how many penalties = a team warning and how long it should last for etc but now very rarely see it, if at all. 

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On 16/08/2019 at 11:55, Damien said:

The focus is on referees far too often.

Isn't that because coaches encourage players to cheat, in fact they actually train to cheat, isn't that because players will cheat off their own backs without coaching, isn't it because players make multiple errors and deliberately push the boundaries of what is within the laws of the game to gain an advantage/win the game?

When teams play cleanly within the boundaries of the laws, make effort to stay onside, don't run the risk of ball stealing/interfering/late/high/reckless hits etc etc and make few errors then the officials don't have to get involved that much. The problem is that's not how the modern game is played, it's win at all costs and push beyond the boundaries even if the risk of getting caught is there, the players and coaches know that refs have less control and by definition of seemingly wanting the games to flow the edit by the higher ups means that players will get away with stuff that is outside the laws of the game.

By bending to the players the refs make a rod for their backs and fight a losing battle, as I've said before this is the same with motorists and police..

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