GeordieSaint Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsehhh Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 No Reagan Grace I see. Is he injured or just defintely not in the squad then. Good decisions ref Knowles and Coote, they should make the final cut too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essai Machine Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 O'Loughlin ? We're doomed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: Breaking News: GB tour announced so we can add Philbin, Coote and Knowles to the England squad..... What a waste of an opportunity......again. At least it's one of each nation, I'll give them credit for......knowing all the nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsehhh Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Looking at that squad, shorn of the down under stars, there are a lot of average players in the mix. Imagine if we had to play the Aussies with a squad selected only from those lot, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Be lucky to get 20mins out of Ward & O’loughlin,would have had Farrell before the pair of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 So, out of this 29-man performance squad, how many are likely to make the final 24-man squad? How many down under players will make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said: So, out of this 29-man performance squad, how many are likely to make the final 24-man squad? How many down under players will make it? 3 x Burgesses, Hall, Bateman, Graham, Widdop, Watkins, Whitehead and Sutton all in with a shout... so 39 into 24! (iIs 24 the correct figure?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Clearly a lot are going to be chopped from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Looks like Knowles and Coote have forgotten who there Junior club was. Add in Burgess x 2, Bateman, Hodgson, Whithead, Widdop and Graham, having cut that squad by 12 and you'd like to think it would be pretty decent, albeit with Coote and Austin as the non-English, but British, players Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 FFS, 2 f'kin Aussies in the squad, along with a f'kin Aussie coach I only hope the players miss the cut for the final party, I wished it had been announced early July I would have saved myself a lot of money I wouldn't have bothered booking the trip. I will be honest on my return from the tour I will post on here the reactions and comments I recieve from the NZ public should any of these two or both play in the tests. It will be interesting to see if they do play what respect they will give the National Anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Austin in but not Hastings . On merit or Hastings not putting himself forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I will be honest on my return from the tour I will post on here the reactions and comments I recieve from the NZ public should any of these two or both play in the tests. I am not sure the Kiwis have any legitimacy to talk about non-Kiwis playing for New Zealand... Nathan Fien springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: It will be interesting to see if they do play what respect they will give the National Anthem They just have to stand there with a serious face on . Lots of sportsmen born here don’t sing it . I’m not sure that’s any kind of indicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: FFS, 2 f'kin Aussies in the squad, along with a f'kin Aussie coach I only hope the players miss the cut for the final party, I wished it had been announced early July I would have saved myself a lot of money I wouldn't have bothered booking the trip. Haven't they been saying for months that they were going to select from those who were eligible? Surely you must have suspected it was going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said: Haven't they been saying for months that they were going to select from those who were eligible? Surely you must have suspected it was going to happen? cant see Watkins getting added to the squad - he needs a full off season by the looks, sol must only be there to mentor the younger ones , ryan hall similar situation to Watkins see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, DavidM said: They just have to stand there with a serious face on . Lots of sportsmen born here don’t sing it . I’m not sure that’s any kind of indicator I'm not a Royalist in the least David, but at these sporting occasions, well the RL tests I have attended it is not so much in recognition and homage to HRH but to the respect that it is the national team our own people representing our country and because of that I give it my all and bellow it out as much as anyone can, I am as proud to be there as the player's should be, I have a connection and want to be part of it. That being so I can't see how people born in another country and having spent all their life there and in the case of sportsmen who must have had the ambition to be good enough to don their countries colours should have that same feeling for their own as I do, I do not believe they can have that emotional connection, in fact I consider their action of playing for another country to be mercenary. I can live with Coote playing for Scotland in the WC simply because it is just a contrived competition of basically a large percentage of manufactured squads to give the competition some kind of profile, but in a England or GB test team that is tantamount to hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: FFS, 2 f'kin Aussies in the squad, along with a f'kin Aussie coach I only hope the players miss the cut for the final party, I wished it had been announced early July I would have saved myself a lot of money I wouldn't have bothered booking the trip. I will be honest on my return from the tour I will post on here the reactions and comments I recieve from the NZ public should any of these two or both play in the tests. It will be interesting to see if they do play what respect they will give the National Anthem. Seems a long way to go for a 2 player survey. Why not just go for the Rugby, Harry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said: Haven't they been saying for months that they were going to select from those who were eligible? Surely you must have suspected it was going to happen? One lives in hope 17 stoner, let me just say those two selected have only been plying their trade and living in the country for little more than half a year, have you no faith in our home grown lads, do you think we need to select them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Seems a long way to go for a 2 player survey. Why not just go for the Rugby, Harry? Thats the intention LD, but it is my opinion and I won't be swayed from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Some odd picks there. Ward? Will he even be fit? Is he even having that good of a year in an underperforming side? O’Loughlin? He’s been superb over the years and manages to turn into the hulk vs Saints every year but I this might have been one season too far. Lyne? Why him? There’s a good four or five that have had better years than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I'm not a Royalist in the least David, but at these sporting occasions, well the RL tests I have attended it is not so much in recognition and homage to HRH but to the respect that it is the national team our own people representing our country and because of that I give it my all and bellow it out as much as anyone can, I am as proud to be there as the player's should be, I have a connection and want to be part of it. That being so I can't see how people born in another country and having spent all their life there and in the case of sportsmen who must have had the ambition to be good enough to don their countries colours should have that same feeling for their own as I do, I do not believe they can have that emotional connection, in fact I consider their action of playing for another country to be mercenary. I can live with Coote playing for Scotland in the WC simply because it is just a contrived competition of basically a large percentage of manufactured squads to give the competition some kind of profile, but in a England or GB test team that is tantamount to hypocrisy. I am with you on this one Harry. I know what the eligibility rules are and I accept that others are happy with Coote and Austin in the squad. Personally, I would only represent a nation if I supported them. I believe that you can be passionate about multiple teams and I believe that you can be passionate about teams you are connected to through family (parents and grandparents) but I really can't see these two in that category based on their background. I know that people will disagree with me and that is fine but it is the way I feel about international League as a passionate supporter. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Thats the intention LD, but it is my opinion and I won't be swayed from it. I agree with you opinion. Should be a good trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: One lives in hope 17 stoner, let me just say those two selected have only been plying their trade and living in the country for little more than half a year, have you no faith in our home grown lads, do you think we need to select them? I wasn't giving an opinion as to what I want or think. I was just responding to you saying that you wish you'd known about this in July when you booked. As far as I can remember, it's not been a secret that heritage players were going to be considered. I've been reading for ages people on here talking about Coote being good enough for the Lions, so it certainly didn't surprise me to see him named. With that in mind, I'm a bit surprised you booked to go on that tour, IF having such players in the squad is going to be a problem for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Some odd picks there. Ward? Will he even be fit? Is he even having that good of a year in an underperforming side? O’Loughlin? He’s been superb over the years and manages to turn into the hulk vs Saints every year but I this might have been one season too far. Lyne? Why him? There’s a good four or five that have had better years than him. Those individuals are all in the Elite Training Squad so it's good to keep faces involved even though they have little chance of actually making the touring party (Ward in this case). It builds team ethos and cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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