gandalf Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Now it looks like the Swinton rebrand is not going to happen will we see a new Manchester club anytime soon? The RFL want one I believe. They probably turned down Manchester Rangers as they thought one of the existing clubs might take up the name. I could be wrong but it looks like the RFL backed the wrong horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIWIT Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The RFL couldn't pick a winner in a one-horse race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Toronto Wolfpack are based in Manchester when in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolton Leyther Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Manchester Rangers was a hugely promising opportunity which should've been supported to the fullest extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Toronto Wolfpack are based in Manchester when in the UK They are in Rochdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: They are in Rochdale. Maybe they will be forced to move their home games there to get a fair share of the sky tv money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 I personally think marketed correctly there would be an appetite for a Manchester club. At least to championship level. I for one would like to watch a Manchester club play. The Manchester name would surely be attractive to sponsors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Even if the RFL knew Swinton wanted to change name that would be no reason not to admit Manchester Rangers, local derbies enhance interest not hinder it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I don’t get the fascination with a Manchester named club. I’m not sure the City of Manchester is losing out at all when they have a side on their doorstep (relatively speaking compared with a large part of the country) who could be crowned the best side in the northern hemisphere in a couple of weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: I don’t get the fascination with a Manchester named club. I’m not sure the City of Manchester is losing out at all when they have a side on their doorstep (relatively speaking compared with a large part of the country) who could be crowned the best side in the northern hemisphere in a couple of weeks time. People in Manchester have little concern about what is going on in surrounding towns. Ditto other cities like Liverpool. Until there are RL teams in those places the amount of people that will be interested from those places is always going to be very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Rochdale, Oldham, Swinton, Salford, Leigh and probably Wigan to some extent don't want another Manchester Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Damien said: People in Manchester have little concern about what is going on in surrounding towns. Ditto other cities like Liverpool. Until there are RL teams in those places the amount of people that will be interested from those places is always going to be very limited. People in Manchester have little concern about Rugby League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 oh, Saint Helens are close to Liverpool, try and relocate them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardly Fan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: People in Manchester have little concern about Rugby League. Which is in part because there is no Manchester club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cowardly Fan said: Which is in part because there is no Manchester club. Yet Manchester Rangers could draw crowds of over 300 to amateur games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I am wholeheartedly of the belief that Manchester Rangers were denied a licence so that Swinton would rebrand. That this was neither guaranteed nor the Manchester rangers investors redirected is a crying shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TboneFromTO Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Tommygilf said: I am wholeheartedly of the belief that Manchester Rangers were denied a licence so that Swinton would rebrand. That this was neither guaranteed nor the Manchester rangers investors redirected is a crying shame. Sorry Tommy, but the story is Manchester Rangers applied for the Hemel licence and lost out to Ottawa I don't have the specifics, but I believe had Ottawa applied for expansion instead of buying the licence then we would have both. I think MCR could support a league team! Someone should get on the phone the Sheikh and see if he wants to expand his portfolio (not much happens at city's academy stadium) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Cowardly Fan said: Which is in part because there is no Manchester club. Is it? Provide me with some evidence of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardly Fan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Is it? Provide me with some evidence of this. I used to work in research for sport. Supporting a team is most often family / friend driven, but outside of that local pride is key at the start. I don't believe people in Manchester feel an attachment to Rochdale or Oldham as places. Plus as has been said Manchester Rangers were getting 300 in the lower amateur leagues. What do you think that would grow to in the first year as a league 1 club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cowardly Fan said: I used to work in research for sport. Supporting a team is most often family / friend driven, but outside of that local pride is key at the start. I don't believe people in Manchester feel an attachment to Rochdale or Oldham as places. Plus as has been said Manchester Rangers were getting 300 in the lower amateur leagues. What do you think that would grow to in the first year as a league 1 club? Assuming it was say £12 plus to get in I would say around 200 on the basis of a mid table finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Smudger06 said: Rochdale, Oldham, Swinton, Salford, Leigh and probably Wigan to some extent don't want another Manchester Team. Why though? It’s not like their fans are going to start supporting Manchester Rangers. If anything (rightly or wrongly) it would boost media interest which might boost interest in their own clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, Cowardly Fan said: I used to work in research for sport. Supporting a team is most often family / friend driven, but outside of that local pride is key at the start. I don't believe people in Manchester feel an attachment to Rochdale or Oldham as places. Plus as has been said Manchester Rangers were getting 300 in the lower amateur leagues. What do you think that would grow to in the first year as a league 1 club? So on that premise, Manchester Giants are a massive Basketball club then? They play in a 750 capacity arena. Were they? Is there any proof of that at all?If so, is that their average or was that their max? It’s not about year 1, it’s about year 10 and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Smudger06 said: Rochdale, Oldham, Swinton, Salford, Leigh and probably Wigan to some extent don't want another Manchester Team. And there is the argument that there are 6 teams in the greater Manchester area so why would people start watching Manchester Rangers when they don’t watch Oldham, Rochdale, Swinton ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eddie said: Why though? It’s not like their fans are going to start supporting Manchester Rangers. If anything (rightly or wrongly) it would boost media interest which might boost interest in their own clubs. Because that's the way 6 Clubs see it, Greater Manchester is their catchment area, their fans are not going to switch but they don't want more competition for what they view as their potential fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Those clubs mentioned in Gtr Manchester have no chance of attracting fans from other than their immediate geographical area. Ok super League teams might get armchair fans but not paying punters. I would argue a Manchester club would. Manchester is a name recognised around the world... Wigan isn't (no disrespect). When I go on holiday abroad and I'm asked where I'm from I don't say Salford ... I say Manchester. It is instantly recognisable. Plus a new Manchester club would have none of the baggage, tribal loyalties and ridiculous insularity so often on display in RL. A clean slate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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