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As I understand it,Mr Elstone wants the Toronto situation resolved before the Champ GF.If they are refused entry and they play Fev in the final does that mean that Fev promoted win or lose

This question may have been answered previously,if so I apologise.

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1 minute ago, gittinsfan said:

As I understand it,Mr Elstone wants the Toronto situation resolved before the Champ GF.If they are refused entry and they play Fev in the final does that mean that Fev promoted win or lose

This question may have been answered previously,if so I apologise.

Have Featherstone met all the criteria for promotion? Have Toulouse? Do we actually know what it is? Is it a secret?

So many questions.

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Yeah you’d think that the runner up in the final would be promoted if Toronto are denied entry, otherwise the season is a farce which it would be anyway if Toronto are denied entry

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It is only my opinion,as I do not have the definitive answer,but based on earlier decisions on certain matters,perhaps London Broncos will retain their Super League position.

They could also parachute another club in.

What finance could Featherstone offer the elite clubs?  Do they have a broadcasting deal?

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Just now, Angelic Cynic said:

It is only my opinion,as I do not have the definitive answer,but based on earlier decisions on certain matters,perhaps London Broncos will retain their Super League position.

They could also parachute another club in.

What finance could Featherstone offer the elite clubs?  Do they have a broadcasting deal?

Exactly does any club promoted to SL have to prove they can add finance to SL? Why would Fev get special treatment over other clubs when they will be getting £1.9m? I'm not picking on Fev just showing what an absolute mess it is with just a couple of weeks to go to the GF?

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3 minutes ago, Angelic Cynic said:

It is only my opinion,as I do not have the definitive answer,but based on earlier decisions on certain matters,perhaps London Broncos will retain their Super League position.

They could also parachute another club in.

What finance could Featherstone offer the elite clubs?  Do they have a broadcasting deal?

Yes we have a broadcasting deal, as does every other Championship club, with Sky. They chose not to show the Championship though.

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2 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said:

Yes we have a broadcasting deal, as does every other Championship club, with Sky. They chose not to show the Championship though.

Toulouse and Toronto are a Championship club.

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2 minutes ago, Private Baldrick said:

I stand corrected, I shall say every UK Championship club then!

Do they only show games not involving Toulouse or Toronto? Which UK clubs are Sky paying to cover tonight?

I'm not being pissy, just highlighting what a complete dogs ######## this whole thing is when the season it getting to an exciting climax. Clubs are clubs, it is not us and them.

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Love a good conspiracy. I reckon there will be some sort of kangaroo court that decides if Toronto get in but they must pay a bond and if they don’t, it’s a game of Rock Paper Scissors to keep London or to promote Toulouse. 

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Why wait till now to make their minds up. Why wasn’t it questioned this time last year. In fact why wasn’t it questioned before they joined the league 3 years ago

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sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward

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1 hour ago, gittinsfan said:

As I understand it,Mr Elstone wants the Toronto situation resolved before the Champ GF.If they are refused entry and they play Fev in the final does that mean that Fev promoted win or lose

This question may have been answered previously,if so I apologise.

Nobody knows 

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37 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Why wait till now to make their minds up. Why wasn’t it questioned this time last year. In fact why wasn’t it questioned before they joined the league 3 years ago

Robert Elstone is a useless good for nothing waste of space. This is nothing but a money grab from him and a few Super League chairmen trying to steal Toronto’s central funding 

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1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Robert Elstone is a useless good for nothing waste of space. This is nothing but a money grab from him and a few Super League chairmen trying to steal Toronto’s central funding 

What central funding would that be?

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1 minute ago, Oliver Clothesoff said:

What central funding would that be?

The central funding all Super League clubs get.

I will be waiting to see what happens with Toronto Wolfpack before renewing my Leeds Rhinos season ticket. If Toronto win the Grand Final and are denied entry I won’t be watching Super League in 2020, hopefully common sense prevails.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

The central funding all Super League clubs get.

I will be waiting to see what happens with Toronto Wolfpack before renewing my Leeds Rhinos season ticket. If Toronto win the Grand Final and are denied entry I won’t be watching Super League in 2020, hopefully common sense prevails.

Agreed entirely, it will be terrible decision not to let them in, I’d probably cancel my sky subscription as I won’t be bothered to watch any more. 

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15 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

The central funding all Super League clubs get.

I will be waiting to see what happens with Toronto Wolfpack before renewing my Leeds Rhinos season ticket. If Toronto win the Grand Final and are denied entry I won’t be watching Super League in 2020, hopefully common sense prevails.

Do they even take any? Pretty sure they haven’t since coming into existence (though I could be wrong). 

That’s certainly a strange approach to take. More so when you consider we won’t know all of the facts involved in any decision process. 

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Why didn’t Robert Elstone set out the promotion criteria when he visited Toronto 13 months ago?

 

“If Toronto does earn its place in Super League next year, we have to be certain we can manage and fund the obvious logistical challenges of weekly transatlantic travel”

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/super-league-boss-robert-elstone-13108839.amp

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1 hour ago, hrtbps said:

If the winner of the Championship Grand Final doesn't get promoted, it'll highlight the Super League once again as a Micky Mouse competition. 

This is exactly why older fans have turned their back on the game. If they don't allow the winner, wether it be my team Featherstone, (very unlikely when a part time team will have to go to France and maybe Canada in two weeks), Toronto or Toulouse we might as well just call it a day.

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2 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

This is exactly why older fans have turned their back on the game. If they don't allow the winner, wether it be my team Featherstone, (very unlikely when a part time team will have to go to France and maybe Canada in two weeks), Toronto or Toulouse we might as well just call it a day.

I have no argument with that. The only difference between a part-time team (Fev) and a full-time team like Wakefield is £1.9m of central funding. The ridiculous part of the system is that if Fev actually upset the odds and got promotion, they have virtually no time to build a team or SL infrastructure at the club to thrive - literally 16 weeks until the season rolls round again. London tried in vain but the odds are so stacked against the promoted club it is not funny.

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16 minutes ago, Scubby said:

I have no argument with that. The only difference between a part-time team (Fev) and a full-time team like Wakefield is £1.9m of central funding. The ridiculous part of the system is that if Fev actually upset the odds and got promotion, they have virtually no time to build a team or SL infrastructure at the club to thrive - literally 16 weeks until the season rolls round again. London tried in vain but the odds are so stacked against the promoted club it is not funny.

True but it’s the same in any sport, eg a team who go up to the premier league via the play offs have to wait until late May before they know what sort of players they’re trying to sign. 

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Just now, Eddie said:

True but it’s the same in any sport, eg a team who go up to the premier league via the play offs have to wait until late May before they know what sort of players they’re trying to sign. 

Yep but RL is such a physically demanding sport. To assemble a capable squad and try to do a full pre-season in that time is so tough. The short time between seasons compared to the NRL is a huge negative.

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18 minutes ago, Eddie said:

True but it’s the same in any sport, eg a team who go up to the premier league via the play offs have to wait until late May before they know what sort of players they’re trying to sign. 

At least Norwich, Villa and Sheff U were already full-time and can pick up players world-wide to boost their squad. This is a bigger gap with a restricted player pool. One of the arguments for licensing was to avoid yoyoing like London and Leigh.


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