philipw Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 England squad (and new jersey) announced: https://www.rugby-league.com/article/55809/england-mens-squad-named-for-downer-world-cup-nines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Men James Graham (St George Illawarra Dragons - capt), Tom Burgess (South Sydney), Daryl Clark (Warrington Wolves), Jake Connor (Hull FC), Ryan Hall (Sydney Roosters), Ash Handley (Leeds Rhinos), Jack Hughes (Warrington Wolves), Reece Lyne (Wakefield Trinity), Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield Giants), Ryan Sutton (Canberra Raiders), Sam Tomkins (Catalans Dragons), Jake Trueman (Castleford Tigers), Liam Watts (Castleford Tigers), Elliott Whitehead (Canberra Raiders), Gareth Widdop (St George Illawarra Dragons), George Williams (Wigan Warriors). Women Dannielle Anderson (Leeds), Caitlin Beevers (Leeds), Leah Burke (St Helens), Chantelle Crowl (St Helens), Jodie Cunningham (St Helens), Faye Gaskin (St Helens), Kelsey Gentles (Castleford), Amy Hardcastle (Bradford), Shona Hoyle (St Helens), Shannon Lacey (Leeds), Rhiannion Marshall (Castleford), Sinead Peach (Castleford), Georgia Roche (Castleford), Emily Rudge (St Helens), Tara-Jane Stanley (Castleford), Naomi Williams (St Helens). "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Like the kit a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Like the kit a lot Yep, really nice that. I think this is the lind of thing they should be doing with the full kit to keep it a bit fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Not crazy about the kit design, but don't hate it. However, I do like it being a separate look (and extra range of clothing to be sold) to the main GB/England look. It also helps build an image for Nines. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Really like that kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 This makes it a bit of a Micky Mouse competition Players from the Grand Finalists, Salford and St Helens, were not considered, as the squad will fly to Sydney next Saturday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just the leftovers of the Development Squad or whatever it’s called and some players, presumably, going to play in this and the Tests this Winter. Shirt not to my liking. Not keen on the neck or the hoops being broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Decent kit but it’ll split opinions Quality names in the squad but it’s woefully short of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Graham & T,Burgess in a 9s squad,are they trying to save on airfare ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I really like the kit. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Davo5 said: Graham & T,Burgess in a 9s squad,are they trying to save on airfare ? They'll suck in defenders to create space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Davo5 said: Graham & T,Burgess in a 9s squad,are they trying to save on airfare ? Most NRL 9s squads always featured a couple of big middle forwards. Graham has ball skills and is a great defender and worker in the middle, Burgess a damaging ball runner when he has a bit of room to wind up. Pretty sure both have played 9s before, which will also help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: They'll suck in defenders to create space. It's 9s there already is plenty of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsi42 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: This makes it a bit of a Micky Mouse competition Players from the Grand Finalists, Salford and St Helens, were not considered, as the squad will fly to Sydney next Saturday morning Only regan that would be missed. I’d have charted a flight just for him maybe josh jones he’s be a nightmare in a nines squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Davo5 said: It's 9s there already is plenty of space. On the one hand I can see your point. But I have to say, unlike 7s, 9s RL doesn't necessitate space in the same way. A player who can draw in 3 defenders is still valuable in 9s RL imo. I think we'll see a few contrasting styles which will be refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 A fit Tom Johnstone and Regan Grace would have been superb in this competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, OMEGA said: A fit Tom Johnstone and Regan Grace would have been superb in this competition I think Regan Grace is in the Welsh squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: They'll suck in defenders to create space. Literally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: This makes it a bit of a Micky Mouse competition Players from the Grand Finalists, Salford and St Helens, were not considered, as the squad will fly to Sydney next Saturday morning I would say this competition was firmly entrenched in the Michael Mouse household well before that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Davo5 said: It's 9s there already is plenty of space. In the 9's tournaments I saw (the NRL 9's), it was the teams that understood that you have to go forward first before you go wide that were successful. Pro Rugby League teams have such good scrambling defence that the teams with go forward and an offload/short passing game were just as effective (if not more so) than those that tried to go side to side. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dunbar said: In the 9's tournaments I saw (the NRL 9's), it was the teams that understood that you have to go forward first before you go wide that were successful. Pro Rugby League teams have such good scrambling defence that the teams with go forward and an offload/short passing game were just as effective (if not more so) than those that tried to go side to side. We are not short of good young forwards,Graham's career is winding down and can't get around the pitch like he used to and Burgess can be targeted in defence at times by smaller,quicker players and that's in the 13 a side game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Dave T said: Yep, really nice that. I think this is the lind of thing they should be doing with the full kit to keep it a bit fresh. Original Northern Union shirt was red and white hoops so wouldnt mind seeing it come back from the England International kit.. would make it different from other England sports teams too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, Davo5 said: We are not short of good young forwards,Graham's career is winding down and can't get around the pitch like he used to and Burgess can be targeted in defence at times by smaller,quicker players and that's in the 13 a side game. Yes, I do worry about both. Graham has always been an effective defender with a good engine but he is no spring chicken while Burgess does struggle for mobility. Let's hope the likes of Watts, Whitehead and Hughes play the most minutes as they are mobile and athletic. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Very surprised personally to see Graham in the 9s . Overall I’m struggling to garner any enthusiasm in this comp tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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