Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Australian men's squad Josh Addo-Carr Jai Arrow AJ Brimson Nathan Brown Kyle Feldt Tyson Frizell Reuben Garrick Wade Graham Clint Gutherson Ben Hunt Mitchell Moses Ryan Papenhuyzen Kalyn Ponga Curtis Scott Cody Walker "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Australian men's squad Josh Addo-Carr Jai Arrow AJ Brimson Nathan Brown Kyle Feldt Tyson Frizell Reuben Garrick Wade Graham Clint Gutherson Ben Hunt Mitchell Moses Ryan Papenhuyzen Kalyn Ponga Curtis Scott Cody Walker I have a sneaky feeling they may win ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 So Trueman and Hall are included in the final Lions squad , that right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DavidM said: I have a sneaky feeling they may win ... Indeed. I would take Daryl Clark ahead of Ben Hunt and Widdop ahead of Brimson but after that I am struggling to think of an England player I would definitely have ahead of their Australian counterparts. Probably just Elliott Whitehead for one of their back rowers. Not too many then! "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dunbar said: Australian men's squad Josh Addo-Carr Jai Arrow AJ Brimson Nathan Brown Kyle Feldt Tyson Frizell Reuben Garrick Wade Graham Clint Gutherson Ben Hunt Mitchell Moses Ryan Papenhuyzen Kalyn Ponga Curtis Scott Cody Walker They’re clearly not bothered about picking forwards! A big contrast to the England side, be interesting to see how the 2 compete. A huge amount of individual ability and athleticism in that Australia line up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, RP London said: Original Northern Union shirt was red and white hoops so wouldnt mind seeing it come back from the England International kit.. would make it different from other England sports teams too. yes, the one they wore for that test in Oz a few years back was very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, DoubleD said: They’re clearly not bothered about picking forwards! A big contrast to the England side, be interesting to see how the 2 compete. A huge amount of individual ability and athleticism in that Australia line up Yes, very different make up of squads. England have selected 4 middle forwards (Graham, T. Burgess, Watts and Sutton) plus 2 edge forwards (Hughes & Whitehead) while Australia go with just 2 middles (Arrow and Brown) and 2 edge forwards (Frizell & Graham). Potentially I could see the Aussies suffering from being too lightweight in the middle... they have definitely put all their eggs in the speed basket. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Probably asked before (sorry) but is this being televised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Southerner said: Probably asked before (sorry) but is this being televised? Yes on Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Southerner said: Probably asked before (sorry) but is this being televised? yes, it will be on Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Haven't seen the Kiwi squad (if its been announced), but reckon they might fancy this. The Aussies rarely get it wrong in terms of selection. The likes of Ponga, Papenhuyzen and Add-Carr are gonna love the extra space. Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Regarding the England squad - I think we look a tad immobile and lacking invention, which I believe is more important for this format with more space available!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I’d have a stab at an England squad Bateman Whitehead Thompson Makinson Mcgilvary Lomax Percival Jones Conner Gildart Clark Philbin Evaldes Hastings Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Addo-Carr and Ponga should rip this up. I think our side is quite poor, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Addo-Carr and Ponga should rip this up. I think our side is quite poor, tbh. They will do if we are picking players like Graham,T Burgess,Hall and Sutton for a nines comp. we should either pick a quality mobile side or go with young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think Clark, Whitehead and Connor are particularly well suited to 9's. The first two because of their pace and skill for forwards to go with workload and the latter because of creativity. In the outside backs, we have gone for fast big men (McGilvary, Lyne & Hall) rather than out and out speedsters. Maybe that is necessity over design but they are all quality players if fit and healthy. Maybe Ash Handley will be a bolter! The key for me is whether we have thrown too many big middles in the mix and whether Widdop, Williams, Trueman and Tomkins can provide enough creativity. I think it is fair to say that not many of the English lads will be beating Papenhuyzen and Addo-Carr in a footrace but there is more to winning a game than out and out speed. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 hours ago, GeordieSaint said: I think Regan Grace is in the Welsh squad. My mistake I thought it was a GB squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The Australian and New Zealand teams look far stronger and more suitable for nines than the England one. I just can't understand some of the England selections or the logic behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulga Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The Lebanese Rugby League Federation has selected the following players to represent the Lebanon Nines Squad in the Downer Rugby League World Cup 9s, at Bankwest Stadium on October 18 and 19. Kayne Kalache James Roumanos Elie El-Zakhem Reece Robinson Travis Robinson Jacob Kiraz Jalal Bazzaz Anthony Layoun Bilal Maarbani Jayden El-Jalkh Adam Rizk Josh Rizk John Paul Nohra Johnny-Lee Gabriel Charbel Tasipale Ahmad Harajly Ziad Agha Jordan Samrani Head Coach: Rick Stone These guys are going to get slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Copa Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pulga said: The Lebanese Rugby League Federation has selected the following players to represent the Lebanon Nines Squad in the Downer Rugby League World Cup 9s, at Bankwest Stadium on October 18 and 19. Kayne Kalache James Roumanos Elie El-Zakhem Reece Robinson Travis Robinson Jacob Kiraz Jalal Bazzaz Anthony Layoun Bilal Maarbani Jayden El-Jalkh Adam Rizk Josh Rizk John Paul Nohra Johnny-Lee Gabriel Charbel Tasipale Ahmad Harajly Ziad Agha Jordan Samrani Head Coach: Rick Stone These guys are going to get slaughtered. One guy is a US RU 7s and 15s player. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Harajly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Damien said: The Australian and New Zealand teams look far stronger and more suitable for nines than the England one. I just can't understand some of the England selections or the logic behind them. I can. They play in Oz and it was cheap to just pick them. I mean, Ryan Sutton, James Graham and Tom Burgess are such no-brainers for 9s, and Ryan Hall has done so much to earn his spot this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Dave T said: I can. They play in Oz and it was cheap to just pick them. I mean, Ryan Sutton, James Graham and Tom Burgess are such no-brainers for 9s, and Ryan Hall has done so much to earn his spot this year. Indeed, I completely agree that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Dave T said: I can. They play in Oz and it was cheap to just pick them. I mean, Ryan Sutton, James Graham and Tom Burgess are such no-brainers for 9s, and Ryan Hall has done so much to earn his spot this year. Bit harsh on Ryan Hall I think that Dave. Yes, he only played 6 games for the Roosters this year but he is a top quality international winger, powerful and fast and is probably a good fit for 9's. As one of our best players and a consistent top performer for England over the years I don't think it is too crazy selecting him for this tournament. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Bit harsh on Ryan Hall I think that Dave. Yes, he only played 6 games for the Roosters this year but he is a top quality international winger, powerful and fast and is probably a good fit for 9's. As one of our best players and a consistent top performer for England over the years I don't think it is too crazy selecting him for this tournament. Yeah, I agree it may be a bit harsh, but ultimately he hasn't been playing top level RL and he is getting on now and far less effective than previous. Hall has never let us down, and I'm sure he won't here, but I'm not a fan of gifting spots in any squad, even if it is only 9's. I think there is a distinct lack of youth and energy and real pace in that squad, with an average age of 27 and 2 of your 3 wingers in the squad being aged 31 then I think there are some question marks. When those selections just look like convenient selections it is a bit disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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