Chrispmartha Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, johnh1 said: They were all breaches. Salford received their points deduction at the back end of the regular season and nearly got relegated because of it. Why shouldn’t Leeds receive a points deduction? Because the rules state it has to be over a certain amount before points deductions take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It really shows how poorly Leeds have been managed if they’ve managed to exceed the salary cap with that 2018 team. Some ridiculous wages at average players must have been thrown around by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: It really shows how poorly Leeds have been managed if they’ve managed to exceed the salary cap with that 2018 team. Some ridiculous wages at average players must have been thrown around by them. The players were Jack Walker and Luke Briscoe who’s contracts went from part time to full time and Matt Parcell who had a contract upgrade, not sure how they managed to submit the correct monthly upgraded wages but not submit the new contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, johnh1 said: They were all breaches. Salford received their points deduction at the back end of the regular season and nearly got relegated because of it. Why shouldn’t Leeds receive a points deduction? John have you read the RFL statement? It literally explains why they didn’t get a points deduction. Think of financial breaches the same as on field breaches of the rules. It’s the equivalent to saying ‘why did he get for 1 game for a high tackle when ours got banned for 5 for biting?’ Both are against the rules however one is less severe than the other and 1 you could argue was accidental whereas the other almost certainly was deliberate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Bedford Roughyed said: It's following the rules the clubs wanted - Thanks for posting the rule, something I hadn't come across before! I can't say I am a fan of that rule. £95,000 is a high level of benefit given to exceeding the cap. Also, the "live" salary cap management doesn't seem to be working too well either. Finally, it's also damning of Leeds 2018 season that they exceeded the cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Should be a points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, M j M said: Should be a points deduction. *Bangs head on desk* @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chris22 said: I can't say I am a fan of that rule. £95,000 is a high level of benefit given to exceeding the cap. It's almost as if they all know there is a good chance of doing the same breaches... With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 So much for a live Salary Cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It was simply an admin error, they didn’t update the RFL of changes to a couple of players wages straight away as should be done with a live cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: It was simply an admin error, they didn’t update the RFL of changes to a couple of players wages straight away as should be done with a live cap Or they knew it would go over and conveniently forgot to tell the RFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Well, they’re not getting a points deduction, it’ll be a fine. The article explains they have revised the rules on points deduction. The charges seem fair enough. It's clear that sometimes these complicated rules cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Rupert Prince said: The article explains that Pollard and his b*tch Elstone have revised the rules on points deduction. The charges seem fair enough. It's clear that sometimes these complicated rules cause problems. Corrected for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, johnh1 said: They were all breaches. Salford received their points deduction at the back end of the regular season and nearly got relegated because of it. Why shouldn’t Leeds receive a points deduction? Are you thick or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenwarrior Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Worrying thing is they could have avoided the situation by Loaning a player out. Is that really allowed. "We had no idea we had exceeded the 'live' cap at the time and, with hindsight, we could have averted the breach by loaning out a player to another club." HW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Setter Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Shame. I had a lot of respect for Leeds as they were the only SL title-winning club NOT to have broken the cap. For me that meant a lot in terms of integrity. No more the clean-cut, example-setting darlings of the RFL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cheshire Setter said: Shame. I had a lot of respect for Leeds as they were the only SL title-winning club NOT to have broken the cap. For me that meant a lot in terms of integrity. No more the clean-cut, example-setting darlings of the RFL... The irony being we managed to Win all those titles by staying under the cap, and we go and break the cap whilst nearly being relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyXIII Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, johnh1 said: They were all breaches. Salford received their points deduction at the back end of the regular season and nearly got relegated because of it. Why shouldn’t Leeds receive a points deduction? John. Mate, let it go. I have fabulous memories of this season. Even the GF, where we were so close that a single different decision could have had Saints in flat-out panic mode and who knows what would have happened? If you keep looking for conspiracies, you will find them and it will sour your memories of 2019, the best season I have known as a Salford fan. Cherish the good and let the bad go. Enjoy the winter and "Look out, Super League! The Salford Reds are rising!" Rethymno Rugby League Appreciation Society Founder (and, so far, only) member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Havenwarrior said: Worrying thing is they could have avoided the situation by Loaning a player out. Is that really allowed. "We had no idea we had exceeded the 'live' cap at the time and, with hindsight, we could have averted the breach by loaning out a player to another club." HW Yes. They still count the whole of the player's salary on their cap spend but can offset what the loaning club agree to pay against the grand total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: It really shows how poorly Leeds have been managed if they’ve managed to exceed the salary cap with that 2018 team. Some ridiculous wages at average players must have been thrown around by them. Cunningham’s squad were paid up to the cap. It is a sound principle to make the punishment fit the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Dread to think how much they'd have breached the cap by if they had signed some real quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Wigan fans will be thrilled to know there will be no points deduction. Not as much as Salford fans! 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Oxford said: Not as much as Salford fans! I quickly realised I’d misjudged the bitterness some of them still hold....for being caught cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: I quickly realised I’d misjudged the bitterness some of them still hold....for being caught cheating. Wrong Salford, Wigan and Leeds all did the deed because of administrative error ! And it's not the bitterness of being caught it's the sadness about the differences in response or punishment. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denton Rovers RLFC Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It's like how police and CPS continue to lessen the punishments for motorists and we see more incidents with even less f@@@s given to breaking the law, only this time the guilty parties get to change the punishments, utter madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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