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Sat 9 Nov: Intl: New Zealand v Great Britain KO 7am (UK Time) (TV)

Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • New Zealand by 13 points or more
      14
    • New Zealand by 7 to 12 points
      18
    • New Zealand by 1 to 6 points
      5
    • Great Britain by 1 to 6 points
      14
    • Great Britain by 7 to 12 points
      7
    • Great Britain by 13 points or more
      4

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Jon Wilkin..."New Zealand were exceptional tonight".

Worra load of cobblers.

Oz would have put at least 40 on them and Lord knows how many on the "Lions"..


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         SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford   RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC

 

                                                                      All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose...

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2 minutes ago, Gooleboy said:

Another dire performance. No creativity whatsoever. A defeat to PNG next week wouldn't be a surprise. 

My wife, who watches rugby league only occasionally, turned to me during one of GB's few and feeble forays into the NZ 25 and said: "They don't really know what to do, do they."

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6 minutes ago, MZH said:

I feel a bit sorry for Austin tbh. He has made some costly errors but it's a position that is alien to him. On the whole he has done pretty well imo.

 

5 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

I don't care how many injuries we've got, Widdop needs to be left out.

On the basis of those performances I think I'd be tempted to give Austin a run at 6 next week, at least he can beat a first man.

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1 minute ago, Hopping Mad said:

My wife, who watches rugby league only occasionally, turned to me during one of GB's few and feeble forays into the NZ 25 and said: "They don't really know what to do, do they."

Astute woman!

Clueless.

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at least we scored a try this week- it was from a tackle that was "held" but at least we got one, oh and jonny lomax made a break all on his own so that was a plus


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15 minutes ago, Hughsehhh said:

Didn't you create a thread recently calling for rugby league to build it's whole existence around Jake Connor?

Here you go, I thought I'd save you the effort.

I await your apology kind Sir.

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         SL Steve Prescott Man of Steel 2016 - Danny Houghton  SL Top Gun 2016/2017 - Marc Sneyd (83%/89% goal success)

         SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles)  SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC

         SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford   RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC

 

                                                                      All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose...

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The sad thing about today’s game was they didn’t learn anything from last week, it was worse! Gareth widdops kicks were pointless and they didn’t try anything different. One of the most dangerous kicks was 20 seconds to half time from John Bateman. The knock ons/ penalties didn’t help but the tactics were awful!!


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Not just an awful performance, but a truly awful game.  I’ve seen glaciers move faster than the NZ tacklers getting up off the ruck.

lets hope this ushers a few into retirement. Graham was awful, and if Widdop is an international stand off then I am a porn star.

The whole event was a massive letdown.

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One try per game on this tour so far, isn't it? Three other chances made, which is (microscopically) better than last week.

Of course, making a statement performance against PNG might help Bennett keep his job...


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not just the gb performance but the game as a spectacle is no longer attractive, pedantic penalty- ref blows whistle- kick - I don't wanna watch ru!

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1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

One try per game on this tour so far, isn't it? Three other chances made, which is (microscopically) better than last week.

Of course, making a statement performance against PNG might help Bennett keep his job...

nz thought the tackle was complete as did I, for todays try- 3 tries in the last 4 games- amazing record

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2 minutes ago, Hughsehhh said:

My bad, apology proffered 

Accepted, Ithankyew.


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         SL Hit Man 2016/2017 - Danny Houghton (1,289/1,123 tackles)  SL Club of the Year 2016 - Hull FC

         SL Coach of the Year 2016 - Lee Radford   RL Challenge Cup Winners 2016/2017 - Hull FC

 

                                                                      All in all, not a bad couple of years, I suppose...

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Doing a bit of OT lately and today was a last chance for a lie in for a bit. I only got up to see last 1/2 hour and if that was typical of the rest (and apparently GB had a good spell then) I’m glad I didn’t get up earlier. 

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1 minute ago, graveyard johnny said:

nz thought the tackle was complete as did I, for todays try- 3 tries in the last 4 games- amazing record

The referee makes the decision, not the players. I remember athoroughly embarrassing try for the Kiwis by Joe Vagana years ago, when GB heard the hooter and switched off, but the ball was alive and the whistle had not been blown.


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I’ve been following England and Great Britain since 1982 and apart from the occasional false dawn I’ve got used to flat performances from teams we think are better than they show. Today’s tactics and execution were something  of a nadir though, we had more tackles in the NZ quarter than they did in ours and we only scored because of a bit of a freak offload. 
 

I suspect our players aren’t as good as we think, our season is so long our SL lot are knackered come international time, we’ve a distant arms length coach with a boring game plan, and we’ve selected an oddly unbalanced squad.
 

I was chuffed when Bennett became coach. Whilst I’m not sure there’s anyone who can turn us into the best in the world, he’s been really poor for England and particularly for Britain, on and especially off the field. 

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1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

The referee makes the decision, not the players. I remember athoroughly embarrassing try for the Kiwis by Joe Vagana years ago, when GB heard the hooter and switched off, but the ball was alive and the whistle had not been blown.

by the time the tackle had been "stood up" - "stopped" - "called held" I had been out, got a paper, washed the car and cooked a full breakfast before the "offload" 

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1 minute ago, Mushy said:

I’ve been following England and Great Britain since 1982 and apart from the occasional false dawn I’ve got used to flat performances from teams I think are better than they show. Today’s tactics and execution were so thing of a nadir though, we had more tackles in the NZ quarter than they did in ours and we only scored because of a bit of a freak offload. 
 

I suspect our players aren’t as good as we think, our season is so long our SL lot are knackered come international time, we’ve a distant arms length coach with a boring game plan, and we’ve selected an oddly unbalanced squad.
 

I was chuffed when Bennett became coach. whilst I’m not sure there’s anyone who can turn us into the best in the world, he’s been really poor for England and particularly for Britain, on and especially off the field. 

Given the many slaggings off many of these players have received, that'd be tough.

I see a familiar lack of team cohesion and trust in each others' abilities, leading to safe options being taken too often. Especially the forwards choosing to waste too many tackles with repeated attempts to barge over the line on their own, then the ball only going wide on the last, which leads to hasty and desperate play with no second chances.

It reminded me a bit of the national side under Tony Smith. And that's not good.

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4 minutes ago, Mushy said:

I’ve been following England and Great Britain since 1982 and apart from the occasional false dawn I’ve got used to flat performances from teams I think are better than they show. Today’s tactics and execution were so thing of a nadir though, we had more tackles in the NZ quarter than they did in ours and we only scored because of a bit of a freak offload. 
 

I suspect our players aren’t as good as we think, our season is so long our SL lot are knackered come international time, we’ve a distant arms length coach with a boring game plan, and we’ve selected an oddly unbalanced squad.
 

I was chuffed when Bennett became coach. whilst I’m not sure there’s anyone who can turn us into the best in the world, he’s been really poor for England and particularly for Britain, on and especially off the field. 

Agree with pretty much all of this. I think the season length is something we shouldn't forget, although in no way do I want to claim it's the biggest problem. It's just that on the back of all the other problems, it's the last straw. The SL players have been playing since January, and looked gone mentally. It's not rocket science, you flog players for an extra 6 weeks, they won't be in top shape by  November. But as I say, the problems run a lot deeper than that, as others have pointed out. 

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I've been looking forward to these games all year. This is mind numbing to watch and not even effective. We have scored 0, 6, 8, 8 in our last 4 tests and conceded 79 points. Miserable morning yet again! 😞 

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Not a good result, pretty poor effort but we are Olympic material in our negativity, downheartedness and depression over these things aren't we?

12 minutes ago, Mushy said:

I suspect our players aren’t as good as we think, our season is so long our SL lot are knackered come international time, we’ve a distant arms length coach with a boring game plan, and we’ve selected an oddly unbalanced squad.

I think these are very much contributions to what happened.


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I travelled 3500 miles for Saints games this season (and only went to half of them), coach rugby 5-6 days a week and play rugby too. If I made the (vindicated) decision to not wake up this morning to watch GB, what chance do we have of grabbing floating viewers?

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