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The former NRL star, now on the practice squad of the NFL club New York Jets, is considering a return to rugby league.

The North Queensland Cowboys have offered him AU$1 million a year multi-year contract. However the Toronto Wolf Pack is also showing some interest in signing him.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/valentine-could-be-next-to-join-wolfpack/news-story/47d0ea31dc0c4348ea57a850779a829e

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2 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said:

The former NRL star, now on the practice squad of the NFL club New York Jets, is considering a return to rugby league.

The North Queensland Cowboys have offered him AU$1 million a year multi-year contract. However the Toronto Wolf Pack is also showing some interest in signing him.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/valentine-could-be-next-to-join-wolfpack/news-story/47d0ea31dc0c4348ea57a850779a829e

Let him stay in the NFL. Jarrod Hayne was a disaster when he returned for the NFL.

Is Jarrod Hayne even with a Rugby League club now?

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1 minute ago, The Future is League said:

Let him stay in the NFL. Jarrod Hayne was a disaster when he returned for the NFL.

Is Jarrod Hayne even with a Rugby League club now?

Jarryd Hayne is not playing in the NRL or Super League because he is facing charges of rape which have not yet come to trial.

Before he was arrested he was beginning to show some form. But his career is probably over now.

The Valentine Holmes prospect is not comparable to Hayne's current terrible situation.

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16 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said:

The former NRL star, now on the practice squad of the NFL club New York Jets, is considering a return to rugby league.

The North Queensland Cowboys have offered him AU$1 million a year multi-year contract. However the Toronto Wolf Pack is also showing some interest in signing him.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/valentine-could-be-next-to-join-wolfpack/news-story/47d0ea31dc0c4348ea57a850779a829e

Hayne was a better player than Holmes when he made the switch and came back a shadow of the player he was,big gamble by the Cowboys paying Holmes $1m a season.

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5 minutes ago, jim_57 said:

I get the feeling that after SBW every player off-contract will be "linked" or "believed to be in discussions" with Toronto.

The only bad coverage is no coverage!

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10 minutes ago, jim_57 said:

I get the feeling that after SBW every player off-contract will be "linked" or "believed to be in discussions" with Toronto.

Agents will use the Toronto factor to up the value of their players.

The real loser here could well be Australian union as they will have to pay more to keep their players in union.

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6 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

Agents will use the Toronto factor to up the value of their players.

The real loser here could well be Australian union as they will have to pay more to keep their players in union.

If there is a sniff of big money we may see rules changing again imo.  

Holmes is either FB or on the Wing.  Plays whats in front of him.  I dont see him returning and not making an impact.  

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24 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Clubs can only have two ‘ marquee ‘ players though can’t they ?

That won't stop the agents in their quest to get bigger money contracts for their players and upping their own money as well. Don't forget as well that a team playing out of New York seems only about 18 months away giving agents even more leverage when it come to players contracts.

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51 minutes ago, jim_57 said:

I get the feeling that after SBW every player off-contract will be "linked" or "believed to be in discussions" with Toronto.

It reminds me of Man City when they became a rich team 🤩😂

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I expect to see Holmes back in the NRL either this season or next.

It is so difficult to break into the NFL for guys like Holmes.  Yes, he is a very talented athlete but the US collegiate system is full of massively talented athletes who have grown up playing the game, the talent pool is huge.

Christan Wade (also on the international pathway programme) had a much more impressive pre-season than Holmes as a running back candidate and he only made the Bills practice squad and Holmes is only on the Jets practice squad because he is exempt from the 10 man roster on the international programme (certainly kickers and probably the defensive/offensive line are more suitable for the international pathway programme).

I expect reality of the situation will dawn on Holmes and he will return to being a big name in Rugby League.

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53 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I expect to see Holmes back in the NRL either this season or next.

It is so difficult to break into the NFL for guys like Holmes.  Yes, he is a very talented athlete but the US collegiate system is full of massively talented athletes who have grown up playing the game, the talent pool is huge.

Christan Wade (also on the international pathway programme) had a much more impressive pre-season than Holmes as a running back candidate and he only made the Bills practice squad and Holmes is only on the Jets practice squad because he is exempt from the 10 man roster on the international programme (certainly kickers and probably the defensive/offensive line are more suitable for the international pathway programme).

I expect reality of the situation will dawn on Holmes and he will return to being a big name in Rugby League.

Agree with all of this. 

Reality is even someone like Julio Jones or Odell Beckham who are great WRs would find it hard to start for a NRL team on the Wing as the requirements are very different between the sports. 

NFL to NRL is a much much bigger shift than RL to RU for a wing / centre. 

Its a tough ask to go between the NFL and RL or RU sports. Good luck to anyone who tries it.

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26 minutes ago, Mattrhino said:

Wow what a surprise. Didn't see that one coming. 

Toronto is always looking...he would fit into our squad perfectly and is just we need....wait for it....

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2 hours ago, Dunbar said:

I expect to see Holmes back in the NRL either this season or next.

It is so difficult to break into the NFL for guys like Holmes.  Yes, he is a very talented athlete but the US collegiate system is full of massively talented athletes who have grown up playing the game, the talent pool is huge.

Christan Wade (also on the international pathway programme) had a much more impressive pre-season than Holmes as a running back candidate and he only made the Bills practice squad and Holmes is only on the Jets practice squad because he is exempt from the 10 man roster on the international programme (certainly kickers and probably the defensive/offensive line are more suitable for the international pathway programme).

I expect reality of the situation will dawn on Holmes and he will return to being a big name in Rugby League.

christian wade also has an american girlfriend IIRC which may mean he gives it a bit more of a shot as i bet the pay on the practice squad isnt too bad.. but have also seen him linked with the wolfpack and that would be very interesting as he wouldnt need a marque spot but would be a convert from another sport meaning a different salary cap exemption.. and he wouldnt be that far from where he is now in Buffalo either, living wise (for some of the season anyway, before everyone starts with "they live in Manchester etc etc").

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4 hours ago, The Future is League said:

Agents will use the Toronto factor to up the value of their players.

The real loser here could well be Australian union as they will have to pay more to keep their players in union.

My heart is bleeding. Is there a justgiving page for the endangered fatties? 

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It is looking like Valentine Holmes will leave the NFL and play for North Queensland in 2020.

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On 06/11/2019 at 09:11, jim_57 said:

I get the feeling that after SBW every player off-contract will be "linked" or "believed to be in discussions" with Toronto.

Agents everywhere will be thinking that with the Wolfpack getting promotion then everyday is Christmas.

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7 hours ago, Rupert Prince said:

Agents everywhere will be thinking that with the Wolfpack getting promotion then everyday is Christmas.

well there will be no shortage of turkeys 

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the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but the crows are just as black

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On 20/11/2019 at 08:07, Manfred Mann said:

It is looking like Valentine Holmes will leave the NFL and play for North Queensland in 2020.

Who saw that coming? 

Almost everyone, as soon as he left

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So as a professional sportsman he gave it a go at NFL and it didn't work out. Not sure why all the gloating. Have you ever changed jobs? We might be RL nuts but that doesn't mean all the players have to be.

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