Kayakman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 hours ago, The Lad said: 1, St Helens 2, Wigan 3, Warrington 4, Hull FC 5, Castleford 6, Salford 7, Catalan 8, Leeds 9, Toronto 10, Wakefield 11, Huddersfield 12, Hull KR How can you reasonably put Toronto at 9...like come on! Are you trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDINTHEHIZZOUSE Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I'm with you, toronto have a better squad then Catalans,as much as I would like to see Salford reproduce last seasons performances,I think toronto maybe around the same level. Twp don't have the greatest squad,sbw doesn't make a team,however,the team spirit is a factor,if toronto get a couple of early wins under their belts then who knows what could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Funkhouser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, JDINTHEHIZZOUSE said: I'm with you, toronto have a better squad then Catalans,as much as I would like to see Salford reproduce last seasons performances,I think toronto maybe around the same level. Twp don't have the greatest squad,sbw doesn't make a team,however,the team spirit is a factor,if toronto get a couple of early wins under their belts then who knows what could happen I realise the off season (in particular) nonsense has reached new levels but ...?? Toronto do not have a better "squad" than the perceived relegation favourites (not unreasonably btw) , Hull KR. Hull KR also have a playable squad of over 30 players. Toronto currently have a squad of around 23 players, several well into their 30's. Some have poor injury records at SL level. Some have very little SL experience or have not succeeded at the level before .This squad will not be enough to complete the season and yet they have more or less spent up to the salary cap. This bad salary cap management will be their main downfall . Brain Noble is more than aware of this....https://www.cbc.ca/sports/rugby/sonny-bill-williams-toronto-wolfpack-rugby-1.5378693 and is already seeking "off the book" dispensations. If Toronto stay up they will have done well and that is really the only goal they can possibly set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDINTHEHIZZOUSE Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marty Funkhouser said: I realise the off season (in particular) nonsense has reached new levels but ...?? Toronto do not have a better "squad" than the perceived relegation favourites (not unreasonably btw) , Hull KR. Hull KR also have a playable squad of over 30 players. Toronto currently have a squad of around 23 players, several well into their 30's. Some have poor injury records at SL level. Some have very little SL experience or have not succeeded at the level before .This squad will not be enough to complete the season and yet they have more or less spent up to the salary cap. This bad salary cap management will be their main downfall . Brain Noble is more than aware of this....https://www.cbc.ca/sports/rugby/sonny-bill-williams-toronto-wolfpack-rugby-1.5378693 and is already seeking "off the book" dispensations. If Toronto stay up they will have done well and that is really the only goal they can possibly set. in your opinion marty,however,I did state that team spirit plays a major part.London last season are a shining example of that,they competed very well and im of the opinion that Toronto are in a better position to compete than London were,that said,I do think they could have done better with the salary cap,but time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Funkhouser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, JDINTHEHIZZOUSE said: in your opinion marty,however,I did state that team spirit plays a major part.London last season are a shining example of that,they competed very well and im of the opinion that Toronto are in a better position to compete than London were,that said,I do think they could have done better with the salary cap,but time will tell London played well beyond their assumed capabilities that is for certain.However they signed 9 new players, used over 30 players, and were still relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, Marty Funkhouser said: London played well beyond their assumed capabilities that is for certain.However they signed 9 new players, used over 30 players, and were still relegated. How many fewer players would Toronto need if they were not in the Challenge Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, DG70 said: Salford, who were comfortably the 2nd best team in the comp in 2019 not getting much love on here...... That was 2019, this is 2020 Salford will probably be a different proposition in 2020. Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Funkhouser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Kayakman said: How many fewer players would Toronto need if they were not in the Challenge Cup? How long is a piece of string K-man? In any event, 23 men, including your main playmaker (Wilkin) at 36 yrs old , numerous over 30's and not one player under 25 is not going to be enough to complete a full SL season. It is going to be a lot, lot tougher than you have experienced so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Marty Funkhouser said: How long is a piece of string K-man? In any event, 23 men, including your main playmaker (Wilkin) at 36 yrs old , numerous over 30's and not one player under 25 is not going to be enough to complete a full SL season. It is going to be a lot, lot tougher than you have experienced so far. That is what we have beeb told every year...top 5 this year. "Raise The Cap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Huddersfield have recruited well. I'm surprised at the low making many predict. Saints look like winners, Hull KR to go down. It will be a challenging year for Toronto, tough games every week. I'd think mid table for them. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Based on current squads: Saints Wigan Hull Warrington Catalan Cas Leeds Wakey Salford Huddersfield Toronto (based on current squad) HullKR Grand final - Wigan Challenge cup - Saint's A few other predictions I like (from a betting perspective) Top try scorer - Ash Handley 20/1 EW MOS - Hastings 14/1 SL dream team Half back- Maloney 8/1 Back Row - Manu Mau 6/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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