Gerrumonside ref Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just been reported by the BBC and others. Did the 32 year old live up to his early promise? Where do we think he’ll go next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate90 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 His game management was brilliant at Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Do London need a half after Brock Lamb leaving? Or maybe Hudds? Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogiron Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Leigh? They seem to be collecting cast-off half-backs, on his doorstep too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, EastLondonMike said: Do London need a half after Brock Lamb leaving? Or maybe Hudds? No thanks. We have Morgan Smith and Aston. Plus Meadows in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Toronto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 He gets a lot of stick on here but I thought he was great at Wigan and he has a very good kicking game. Hope he gets a SL club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwalker71 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Maybe Widnes or someone like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfan Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Hull KR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Never been a particular fan of his. ( as if he knows or cares!) He did have some very good games at Wigan, that's true. But a good kicking game? Not sure I agree with that when kicking on the last. maybe his team mates not quick enough? However, Lance Todd winner, 723 points for Wigan in 139 games, three Grand Finals, one as a winner, and deservedly man of the match in the final England V NZ test at the DW in 2015. But something not quite right when you've played for 7 different clubs. Of course, we don't really know why he was released by Catalans...or any of the other clubs he played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 My assumption was that it is an open secret he is "done". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, JohnM said: Never been a particular fan of his. ( as if he knows or cares!) He did have some very good games at Wigan, that's true. But a good kicking game? Not sure I agree with that when kicking on the last. maybe his team mates not quick enough? However, Lance Todd winner, 723 points for Wigan in 139 games, three Grand Finals, one as a winner, and deservedly man of the match in the final England V NZ test at the DW in 2015. But something not quite right when you've played for 7 different clubs. Of course, we don't really know why he was released by Catalans...or any of the other clubs he played for. Quite a steady player but McNamara quotes indicate he just didn’t fit in. That point about players having a big amount if clubs isn’t far off the mark imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Give him a simple game plan and structured plays and he's a decent half. I think that's why he went well at Wigan under Wane for a decent spell, there wasn't really any expectation for him to set the game alight or play what was in front of him, it was all about getting the ball to the right players at the right time to execute the plays. Similarly his kicking game is half decent but predictable. Put him in a team with less structured play where the key players have a bit more freedom to play the situation, take the line on and he struggles. You're not likely to see that match winning piece of magic or conjuring of something from nothing that a lot of people want to see from a half back. He's just not that type of player. Like painting your walls beige. Sure it does a job, but it's a bit, meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I visit a Catalan forum on occasion and he didn't seem popular among the fans commenting there. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, RayCee said: I visit a Catalan forum on occasion and he didn't seem popular among the fans commenting there. Can’t go on those views much. Represented England so not a dud by any stretch. I think Moove sums it up though. Polar opposite to Albert Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Spud would still have him in the England team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 With Sammut gone maybe back to Wigan as a cheapish bench / Reserve player?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 In fairness to Matty Smith, I think he did much better for England than someone like Luke Gale, or Rangi Chase before that. He's also won multiple Superleague titles. He's probably washed up now, but certainly wasn't the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintspete83 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 hours ago, JohnM said: Never been a particular fan of his. ( as if he knows or cares!) He did have some very good games at Wigan, that's true. But a good kicking game? Not sure I agree with that when kicking on the last. maybe his team mates not quick enough? However, Lance Todd winner, 723 points for Wigan in 139 games, three Grand Finals, one as a winner, and deservedly man of the match in the final England V NZ test at the DW in 2015. But something not quite right when you've played for 7 different clubs. Of course, we don't really know why he was released by Catalans...or any of the other clubs he played for. Those man of the match performances for England and Lance to have one big similarity. Both were played in bad weather conditions what suited his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I liked Smith at Wigan. He was a steady player that did the simple basics well that allowed those outside of him to flourish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Smith was finished at Wigan, he was certainly over the hill at Saints and he was absolutely abysmal for Catalans. I will be shocked if he gets another go in Super League but I don’t know if his arrogance would see him drop to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR23 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 19 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Toronto? If he isn't 'finished' and can get himself back into shape then that would be a very good shout. They could do with some experience and marshalling in the middle for this transition year. They'd obviously prefer a bigger name but needs must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, LR23 said: If he isn't 'finished' and can get himself back into shape then that would be a very good shout. They could do with some experience and marshalling in the middle for this transition year. They'd obviously prefer a bigger name but needs must. They certainly need another halfback. They are probably the weakest in that area in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said: Smith was finished at Wigan, he was certainly over the hill at Saints and he was absolutely abysmal for Catalans. I will be shocked if he gets another go in Super League but I don’t know if his arrogance would see him drop to the Championship. Would say finished after Wigan. Can see where you are coming from with the rest of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Wigan Riversider said: Would say finished after Wigan. Can see where you are coming from with the rest of your post. Thought his last year at Wigan was pretty much the end, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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