Taniwha Warriors Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 hours ago, aj1908 said: I don't think the nrl makes a lot of profit from.international rugby league The articles I saw were about concerns about insurance and worrying about getting paid Why is playing a test in Denver a good idea with no league.there? Why not play it on the moon Im sure argyle would've loved to have the game in Toronto Maybe the rfl could've thought Denver is a dumb idea lets try Toronto But no they got seduced by the large cash offer from.the promoter Well someone is making money from the tv rights and it ain't Tongan, Fijian or Samoan RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Taniwha Warriors said: Well someone is making money from the tv rights and it ain't Tongan, Fijian or Samoan RL. For test matches ? The revenue wouldn't be a lot. Games get around one million on nine and 300k on Foxtel They are basically filler for.tv stations during origin when club games aren't on Arlc pays each kangaroo I think 40k a game so it's not.cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniwha Warriors Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, aj1908 said: For test matches ? The revenue wouldn't be a lot. Games get around one million on nine and 300k on Foxtel They are basically filler for.tv stations during origin when club games aren't on Arlc pays each kangaroo I think 40k a game so it's not.cheap Anything over a million on FTA in Australia is consider a success in tv ratings terms. There are sports with way less audience than the Pacific rugby league internationals who's getting more than they deserved. Maybe the NRL are pushing for this so they can add internationals to the next broadcaster deals along with the Premiership and Origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Taniwha Warriors said: Anything over a million on FTA in Australia is consider a success in tv ratings terms. There are sports with way less audience than the Pacific rugby league internationals who's getting more than they deserved. Maybe the NRL are pushing for this so they can add internationals to the next broadcaster deals along with the Premiership and Origins. They are already part of the tv deal.now. maybe it will pay off down the track. A test gets a bit better than a normal Friday game Women's origin got the same kind of ratings as nz vs oz test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Damien said: Oh so now you are going down the route of saying the official crowd figure is a lie. Discussions get kind of pointless if you are going to ignore cold, hard facts. I am not saying it was a lie, I am saying it looked inflated, it would not be the first time you know. You can believe what you wish Damien it does not really matter at the end of the day. Denver was a disaster. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Taniwha Warriors said: Well someone is making money from the tv rights and it ain't Tongan, Fijian or Samoan RL. The NRL bundle it up and sell the Pacific Tests as part of their rights. They also sell all the sponsorships, advertisements etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Damien said: The NRL bundle it up and sell the Pacific Tests as part of their rights. They also sell all the sponsorships, advertisements etc. how do the nrl advertisements lol ? they own the tv stations do they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themusician_2 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Someone please copy and paste the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, aj1908 said: how do the nrl advertisements lol ? they own the tv stations do they Do TV stations control all on-field advertisments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, aj1908 said: how do the nrl advertisements lol ? they own the tv stations do they At the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Damien said: At the ground. oh you mean the ground signage. yeh the ARLC will be banking in millions off those with the massive crowds they get to these games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, aj1908 said: oh you mean the ground signage. yeh the ARLC will be banking in millions off those with the massive crowds they get to these games. No need to be flippant. You asked a question, trying to be smart, and got an answer. The value is irrelevant, it is still income for the NRL. What was your previous user name by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Damien said: No need to be flippant. You asked a question, trying to be smart, and got an answer. The value is irrelevant, it is still income for the NRL. What was your previous user name by the way? i think you missed my point sorry. my aka was neimad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Click said: Do TV stations control all on-field advertisments? No...these are the exclusive purview of KFC...got that 'Easter Feaster' @ heartattack.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westside Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Allora said: The official crowd figure was 19,320. It did not look anywhere near that. The Stadium was 75% empty based on that crowd figure. It was not a success by any measure. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12247233 The New Zealand Rugby League has written off debts of more than $300,000 related to the controversial Denver test in June 2018. A few people in Denver mentioned free tickets being given away at a BBQ festival the week before the game. Ticket prices were also cut substantially/2 for 1 the week of the game. Whether they got 19k in or not, I don’t think many would consider it a real success. Most of the issues seemed to be with the promoter, though. They were expecting to sell 30k at certain prices and weren’t able to hit their target, which lead to non-payment and ultimately the promotion company folding. On the topic of this thread, I do think Tonga in SLC can be marketed with ease and with the right people it should be a success. If it goes ahead they should work with the University of Utah and especially BYU to get the word out to their football fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakstorm Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Selling Tonga v Samoa in Utah is easier than New Zealand v England in Denver. Firstly, one in every four Tongan's in the US lives in Utah, with the number of 'Tongan-Americans' over 15,000. You then have a similar number of Samoans with one in seven Samoan-Americans also living in Utah. So you have a sizeable community which has a direct association to the two teams playing right from the start, something the Denver match didn't have, before you start targeting just curious locals / etc. For me, so long as the right guarantees are put in place, I hope the match comes off. Tonga is helping the International game grow at an accelerated rate, and the opportunity to travel to the US in the off-season will appeal to a number of their players, which again helps build combinations, gets more players committing to Tonga versus says Australia or New Zealand, and just keeps the team playing regularly. Throw in, Tonga v Samoa is an amazing rivalry and one that we should be trying to play as often as possible. PACIFIQUE TREIZE: Join the team by registering as a fan today at pacifique13.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 This idea is just dumb. There are loads of Tongans in Tonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westside Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, aj1908 said: This idea is just dumb. There are loads of Tongans in Tonga. There are more Tongans abroad than in the islands and they can make more at modern stadiums in places like Auckland, Sydney, the US etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, westside said: There are more Tongans abroad than in the islands and they can make more at modern stadiums in places like Auckland, Sydney, the US etc. Auckland is also ok. Us is dumb even if there are Tongans they won't follow nrl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westside Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I think you’d be surprised by how many would have seen at least some of Tonga’s recent success on social media. But even if they haven’t, that’s the point of taking games to new audiences. It’s hard to see the drawbacks of a team from a country with a small population helping to expand RL in a huge market while reaching an untapped part of their community abroad. It’s a win-win for Tongan RL and the sport as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omott91 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Themusician_2 said: Someone please copy and paste the article Mods won't allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 hours ago, aj1908 said: Auckland is also ok. Us is dumb even if there are Tongans they won't follow nrl. That isn’t the point. The point is to grow interest in the Tongan and Samoan national teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: That isn’t the point. The point is to grow interest in the Tongan and Samoan national teams. In a country where league is basically nothing ? I think its dumb. Maybe if the world cup was still going there. It's not union it's a struggle to sell these tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, aj1908 said: In a country where league is basically nothing ? I think its dumb. Maybe if the world cup was still going there. It's not union it's a struggle to sell these tests Erm yes. Can’t you see the value in getting the US Tongan and Samoan communities interested in Rugby League? Where are you from by the way, if you don’t mind me asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: Erm yes. Can’t you see the value in getting the US Tongan and Samoan communities interested in Rugby League? Where are you from by the way, if you don’t mind me asking No I can't see the value. Even if they get 15k show up then what? Toronto would have a benefit. Me I'm.from Leigh can't you tell ? Lol I love the wolfpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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