Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, aj1908 said: No I can't see the value. Even if they get 15k show up then what? Toronto would have a benefit. Me I'm.from Leigh can't you tell ? Lol I love the wolfpack Then they might start playing, set teams up, get their kids interested, buy merchandise etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eddie said: Then they might start playing, set teams up, get their kids interested, buy merchandise etc. cant see much happening from one game. they played an origin in 87 there didnt do a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, aj1908 said: cant see much happening from one game. they played an origin in 87 there didnt do a thing. Yeah why bother trying to get new people interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Yeah why bother trying to get new people interested. Maybe new York will.be suvesful and reach super league. With no pro.teams I can't see the point of.a.one off test match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, aj1908 said: Maybe new York will.be suvesful and reach super league. With no pro.teams I can't see the point of.a.one off test match. What about getting kids in Utah playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Eddie said: What about getting kids in Utah playing? Have you watched the movie field of dreams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, aj1908 said: Have you watched the movie field of dreams ? So that’s a no to my question then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: So that’s a no to my question then? It's the same principle as the movie. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, aj1908 said: This idea is just dumb. There are loads of Tongans in Tonga. The game has to raise money. That will be tougher in Tonga. If the choice is (and I do not know it is the case) between losing money that could be spent on local development by having the game in Tonga, or raising more money for local development by hosting it in the USA, then the choice becomes more interesting. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bob8 said: The game has to raise money. That will be tougher in Tonga. If the choice is (and I do not know it is the case) between losing money that could be spent on local development by having the game in Tonga, or raising more money for local development by hosting it in the USA, then the choice becomes more interesting. Making money or even breaking even anywhere will be difficult. There is a reason the NRL support these games held in Western Sydney. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Allora said: Making money or even breaking even anywhere will be difficult. There is a reason the NRL support these games held in Western Sydney. Indeed. Frankly, we have to stop considering them as primarily sporting events. I fear. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bob8 said: The game has to raise money. That will be tougher in Tonga. If the choice is (and I do not know it is the case) between losing money that could be spent on local development by having the game in Tonga, or raising more money for local development by hosting it in the USA, then the choice becomes more interesting. As long as the promoter pays lol It would do a lot more.in Tonga though and all.the Tongans around the world.would see that Union doesn't play tests there bc it doesn't make money Maybe the nrl.could.see.an opportunity to.assist My preference is Toronto. Especially as sbw can play for Samoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, aj1908 said: As long as the promoter pays lol It would do a lot more.in Tonga though and all.the Tongans around the world.would see that Union doesn't play tests there bc it doesn't make money Maybe the nrl.could.see.an opportunity to.assist My preference is Toronto. Especially as sbw can play for Samoa You do realise that Tongas Stadium is basically a Paddock that holds 10k max The locals would be able to afford about $2-4 Au to attend the game. It would not cover the costs of staging the game. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Allora said: You do realise that Tongas Stadium is basically a Paddock that holds 10k max The locals would be able to afford about $2-4 Au to attend the game. It would not cover the costs of staging the game. It wouldn't cost that much. It's not like each player.gwts 40k a test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Its not the player cost its the flights, accommodation, food, Stadium hire, Doctors and Ambulances at the ground etc etc. I travel for work, its costs around $400 per day minimum, times that by around 40 people that are probably staying in better hotels and hiring Gyms and training facilities and International flights. 5 Days x $400 is $2000 x 40 is $80k ++++Plus It loses money big time. If it was a Cash Cow it would have been milked to death years ago. Its a dead end. I have been to these Island many times over the years, they are dirt poor. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Allora said: Its not the player cost its the flights, accommodation, food, Stadium hire, Doctors and Ambulances at the ground etc etc. I travel for work, its costs around $400 per day minimum, times that by around 40 people that are probably staying in better hotels and hiring Gyms and training facilities and International flights. 5 Days x $400 is $2000 x 40 is $80k ++++Plus It loses money big time. That's why I said originally the nrl.should.cover the losses if it's in Tonga. And I also said union doesn't hold.tests there bc it loses money lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, aj1908 said: That's why I said originally the nrl.should.cover the losses if it's in Tonga. And I also said union doesn't hold.tests there bc it loses money lol Why would the NRL the governing body of an Australian Club League cover Test matches played in Tonga they have no control or interest in? You are losing the plot. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Allora said: Why would the NRL the governing body of an Australian Club League cover Test matches played in Tonga they have no control or interest in? You are losing the plot. I can't really respond to this question given the quote below can I lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, aj1908 said: I can't really respond to this question given the quote below can I lol You can do what you want. Australian posters on this Forum are often seen as trouble makers and pro NRL believers. You have taken it to another level in recent times. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Dane Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Allora said: You do realise that Tongas Stadium is basically a Paddock that holds 10k max The locals would be able to afford about $2-4 Au to attend the game. It would not cover the costs of staging the game. It's worse than that. It's been a fair while since I've been, so maybe some of these problems have been fixed, but there's basically no way to secure the pitch at all, there aren't enough toilets (especially women's) and the ones they do have always flood (literally raw sewage pooling up if there're enough people), there aren't adequate facilities for professional players, the lighting wouldn't be adequate for night games, there're no media facilities whatsoever, and those are just the problems that come to mind. On top of all that, you probably couldn't host a game at Nuku'alofa's Teufaiva Stadium anyway because it was badly damaged by cyclone Gita almost two years ago now. I could be wrong, but they probably aren't finished renovating it, though I imagine that the main stand would be done by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Dane Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Allora said: You can do what you want. Australian posters on this Forum are often seen as trouble makers and pro NRL believers. You have taken it to another level in recent times. On Australian forums I'm seen by many as an anti-establishment guy who is constantly negative towards the NRL, whom refuses to accept any of the positive things that it does. Here I'm seen as an NRL sycophant that can't accept that it does any wrong, and will defend it no matter what. It's a very weird experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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