To Be Confirmed Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Eddie said: As you said then, the salary cap is holding back the 4-5 clubs that could spend more. so you want to go back tot eh days of Wigan in the 80's and 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, To Be Confirmed said: so you want to go back tot eh days of Wigan in the 80's and 90's Are Wigan the only team that can spend more than they are currently? Besides it's not like we've had a huge amount more winners since the salary cap has been in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: TWP knew what they were getting into Oxy. P&R, so Elstone is really giving us nothing other than stating what exists now. The 2nd lot is a mixed up mess imo. Newcastle seem to building their own heritage, Coventry haven’t much, neither have Nottingham. All 3 fall outside Elstones template for expansion. Then we can reflect on expansion in ‘heritage’ areas. North & West Wales aren’t exactly ripping it up, London back on the flat line. Now LD I said it's not about relegation for TWP that's the rules of the competition the same as when they were promoted. It's what Elstone said around that and his attitude was retraction and that's fine if he was more honest about it. The heritage nonsense was icing on the cake and as you point out this model essentially has the Dragons as eveidence which isn't expansion it's redirection, or growth for people who land on the side what's not possible on almost every occasion. I just didn't think, or maybe I just hoped, Elstone had a bit more about him than sounding like an RFL clone. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, To Be Confirmed said: so you want to go back tot eh days of Wigan in the 80's and 90's Not at all, I want the whole game to progress, not be held back by the weakest as is happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Oxford said: Now LD I said it's not about relegation for TWP that's the rules of the competition the same as when they were promoted. It's what Elstone said around that and his attitude was retraction and that's fine if he was more honest about it. The heritage nonsense was icing on the cake and as you point out this model essentially has the Dragons as eveidence which isn't expansion it's redirection, or growth for people who land on the side what's not possible on almost every occasion. I just didn't think, or maybe I just hoped, Elstone had a bit more about him than sounding like an RFL clone. Really? You're more niaive that ever i expected oxy lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Robin Evans said: Really? You're more niaive that ever i expected oxy lad I know it's TGG's fault, it brings out the innocent dreamer in me! Enjoy the 50 seconds it lasts Robyn or at least look on the What are you listening to thread, to find it again! 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Has anyone who has been to Toronto NOT enjoyed the experience? I thought it was fabulous. I love france and toulouse being in our league is just heaven for me. But Toronto was fabulous. It smells of ganja like and its a bit hippy in place which is no bad thing. A great transport infrastructure. A nice stadium if the weather holds. Get a good range of beers. Nice restos and great craic. Id love to go and watch fev in canada again though i may have to accept that it might be in the championship... If fev were in SL id love this trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR23 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, Southerner80 said: Thanks for this info. It would make sense for him to be moved on if they are paying Gigot market rate. O'Brien may take a moderate pay cut for a longer contract however they are not easy to find in a Sport as brutal as RL for a player who is around 30 years old. He's a good player is O'Brien. Bound to be quite a few takers for him. Yes a decent player on his day but off the top of my head I can't think of anyone looking for a fullback so not sure how accurate the information is? It was from LoveRugbyLeague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIWIT Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 hours ago, GUBRATS said: You can't have an odd number of teams and play an odd number of games , work it out ? A 13 team Super League means a 24 game home-and-away schedule. Magic Weekend makes 25 games. To keep the season the same number of weeks with a bye week added only have 3 loop fixtures instead of 4. Or extend the season by another week if you want 4. I think that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, TIWIT said: A 13 team Super League means a 24 game home-and-away schedule. Magic Weekend makes 25 games. To keep the season the same number of weeks with a bye week added only have 3 loop fixtures instead of 4. Or extend the season by another week if you want 4. I think that works. So who has the bye week at Magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, Oxford said: The heritage nonsense was icing on the cake and as you point out this model essentially has the Dragons as eveidence which isn't expansion it's redirection Would Toulouse in Super League be expansionary in your book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: So who has the bye week at Magic? Catalans, they can play their ‘neutral’ fixture at a different ground in France or Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramstein Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, TIWIT said: A 13 team Super League means a 24 game home-and-away schedule. Magic Weekend makes 25 games. To keep the season the same number of weeks with a bye week added only have 3 loop fixtures instead of 4. Or extend the season by another week if you want 4. I think that works. I think the point Gubrats is making is that the point of Magic weekend is that all the clubs play a game in one location over a weekend. If there's an odd number of clubs then clearly someone won't have a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, TIWIT said: A 13 team Super League means a 24 game home-and-away schedule. Magic Weekend makes 25 games. To keep the season the same number of weeks with a bye week added only have 3 loop fixtures instead of 4. Or extend the season by another week if you want 4. I think that works. I seem to remember Jon Wilkin suggesting a thirteen team Super League a couple of years ago, he hadn’t joined Toronto or agreed to at this stage, and suggested that each teams “bye” week should be built around their trip to Canada, which made some kind of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: Catalans, they can play their ‘neutral’ fixture at a different ground in France or Spain. You really haven't thought it through have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: You really haven't thought it through have you? Yes, if there was a 13 team SL and one had to give Magic a miss I think it should be Catalans as they’d be better off hosting their neutral game elsewhere. It’s quite clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: Yes, if there was a 13 team SL and one had to give Magic a miss I think it should be Catalans as they’d be better off hosting their neutral game elsewhere. It’s quite clear. So how do they play their 25th game without one of the other 12 playing their 26th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: So how do they play their 25th game without one of the other 12 playing their 26th? Good point, it would be a loop fixture though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: Good point, it would be a loop fixture though. I'd suggest you go away and draw up a draft set of fixtures with 13 teams, Magic and 3 loop fixtures to see how it would pan out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: I'd suggest you go away and draw up a draft set of fixtures with 13 teams, Magic and 3 loop fixtures to see how it would pan out.... Why would I do that? 13 teams is a ridiculous number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Oxford said: I see Parky's in charge at SL "I'm not minded that they should be exempt," said Elstone. "I know that makes it very hard for them. "For me, there are two types of expansion. There is the strategic, planned, structured, logical expansion into an area that has got some heritage versus one that is less structured, less stable and arguably more spurious. I've been very consistent on that. It's not relegation for TWP that concerns me here it's Elstone's attitude and opinion, Parky 101 that is, straight out of the we don't really want it, we don't mind who we put off and we don't care how it looks, anyway my bread's buttered by SL Chairmen at the end of the day. They shouldn't have allowed TWP in then, it gave the wrong impression from the get go. For once Oxy our thoughts are meshing like a hand in a glove, TWP should never have been in a position were they got the wrong impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenwarrior Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 TWP now recalling a player back from been On Loan for 1 game, he will the go back out On Loan. HW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, TIWIT said: A 13 team Super League means a 24 game home-and-away schedule. Magic Weekend makes 25 games. To keep the season the same number of weeks with a bye week added only have 3 loop fixtures instead of 4. Or extend the season by another week if you want 4. I think that works. No need to do that, one is going down and one is coming up = 12 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, Eddie said: Good point, it would be a loop fixture though. So one team gets one game more than the others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: I'd suggest you go away and draw up a draft set of fixtures with 13 teams, Magic and 3 loop fixtures to see how it would pan out.... How many times have we had this Les ? You try to explain , but it doesn't ' sink in ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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