GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hela Wigmen said: I seem to remember Jon Wilkin suggesting a thirteen team Super League a couple of years ago, he hadn’t joined Toronto or agreed to at this stage, and suggested that each teams “bye” week should be built around their trip to Canada, which made some kind of sense. No it tells us Jon Wilkin is thick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: So one team gets one game more than the others ? No ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Eddie said: No ffs. Yes ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: For once Oxy our thoughts are meshing like a hand in a glove, TWP should never have been in a position were they got the wrong impression. I wasn't just meaning TWP, The worng impression was that SL would support expansion, that it would support clubs that had the financial clout to provide it and it would welcome teams from North America for all the right reasons. All that SL had to do was their due diligence and plan well. It just seems to me that SL have simply taken over that most important of formerly RFL roles moving the goalposts. Thank you for your appraisal of my thought processes though, I've included the resounding recommendation in my cv. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: No ffs. Well go on explain then, as I see it on your masterplan magic weekend there will be 6 fixtures which equals 12 teams and Catalan play somewhere close to home instead, so if they are to play someone to make up, who will they play? because whoever it is they will have played one more game than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Oxford said: I wasn't just meaning TWP, The worng impression was that SL would support expansion, that it would support clubs that had the financial clout to provide it and it would welcome teams from North America for all the right reasons. All that SL had to do was their due diligence and plan well. It just seems to me that SL have simply taken over that most important of formerly RFL roles moving the goalposts. Thank you for your appraisal of my thought processes though, I've included the resounding recommendation in my cv. Please define your explanation of "expansion" to me, I consider it to be getting more participants playing the game, thus expanding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Please define your explanation of "expansion" to me, I consider it to be getting more participants playing the game, thus expanding it. Getting more to watch the game isn't expansion also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: How many times have we had this Les ? You try to explain , but it doesn't ' sink in ' Almost as often as I've questioned your masochistic engagements with Scotchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Almost as often as I've questioned your masochistic engagements with Scotchy It's an addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: No it tells us Jon Wilkin is thick Any need to abuse someone whose view you don’t agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: Any need to abuse someone whose view you don’t agree with? It isn't my " view ' , its basic mathematics , odd number of teams and odd number of games doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Havenwarrior said: TWP now recalling a player back from been On Loan for 1 game, he will the go back out On Loan. HW NO he's cup tied for FEV's match against Barrow saturday so FEV have agreed to allow loanee greg worthington return to TWP for fridays game and yes he will then return to FEV on Monday but if FEV had been playing a league match this weekend he would have stayed at FEV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: It isn't my " view ' , its basic mathematics , odd number of teams and odd number of games doesn't work Basic maths dictates that it works out fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Move the salary to a set percentage of clearly defined income (not Directors “loaning” money) That allows the cap to grow as the club’s income grows so providing an incentive Yes only say 4 or 5 clubs would benefit on day one but that would hopefully increase in the future. It also prevents the levelling off or race to the bottom we see to an extent at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: Basic maths dictates that it works out fine. So everybody plays everybody else home and away , then 12 teams play at Magic Weekend , leaving one team still needing to play a game , so who do they play ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: So everybody plays everybody else home and away , then 12 teams play at Magic Weekend , leaving one team still needing to play a game , so who do they play ? Well, no, you scrap Magic Weekend or have smaller events with multiple games throughout the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Hela Wigmen said: Well, no, you scrap Magic Weekend or have smaller events with multiple games throughout the year. So you've realised at last ? Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: So you've realised at last ? Excellent No, I’ve not realised anything. The whole idea that Wilkin suggested was on the basis that Magic was taken away, so you need to realise twenty-four isn’t an odd number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: So you've realised at last ? Excellent From memory I dont think Wilkin's suggestion (which you labelled him thick for) included Magic. Think he even talked about it pre-Toronto days when he was doing the players union and they were looking at ways of reducing demands on the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 53 minutes ago, dkw said: Getting more to watch the game isn't expansion also? If you say so, but if we have 4 or 5 teams playing in the top division who have no source of producing player's we ain't goinng to be in good place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: No, I’ve not realised anything. The whole idea that Wilkin suggested was on the basis that Magic was taken away, so you need to realise twenty-four isn’t an odd number. He didn't mention Magic , he hadn't thought it through , just like your good self You aren't the first to make this mistake , probably not the last , we've had it suggested several times in the last few years , don't feel to bad about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, GUBRATS said: He didn't mention Magic , he hadn't thought it through , just like your good self You aren't the first to make this mistake , probably not the last , we've had it suggested several times in the last few years , don't feel to bad about it He did mention Magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Moove said: From memory I dont think Wilkin's suggestion (which you labelled him thick for) included Magic. Think he even talked about it pre-Toronto days when he was doing the players union and they were looking at ways of reducing demands on the players Did he specifically state , " we'd have to drop Magic Weekend " ? , No , so he hadn't thought it through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: He did mention Magic. Did he mention the drop in income from SKY that would be a result of dropping Magic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, GUBRATS said: Did he mention the drop in income from SKY that would be a result of dropping Magic ? And you know these figures, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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