binosh Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Maldives Marlins would be a great franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, binosh said: Maldives Marlins would be a great franchise. Loire valley fleur de lils..... a must franchise..... I'd buy a season ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Trojan said: Whatever it takes to keep Fev or Leigh out I don’t think the arrangement will keep Fev out, but I think Leeds will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Robin Evans said: Loire valley fleur de lils..... a must franchise..... I'd buy a season ticket I'll buy your Season Ticket , in fact most of the Fev fan base would contribute I've been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Lowdesert said: I don’t think the arrangement will keep Fev out, but I think Leeds will. Who's to say what would happen? Had we won in Toronto last year, Ashton Goulding might be playing for Fev instead of Huddersfield. We perhaps wouldn't need to be Hetherington's rubbing rags. “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Trojan said: Who's to say what would happen? Had we won in Toronto last year, Ashton Goulding might be playing for Fev instead of Huddersfield. We perhaps wouldn't need to be Hetherington's rubbing rags. You don't need to be though, that is the choice of your management, Leigh are still in a DR arrangement with Saints will they use it I would prefer them not to but we don't know, I do think that DR is abhorrent and belittles the competition clubs should stand on their own feet and in doing so if they proove not to be good enough so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: You don't need to be though, that is the choice of your management, Leigh are still in a DR arrangement with Saints will they use it I would prefer them not to but we don't know, I do think that DR is abhorrent and belittles the competition clubs should stand on their own feet and in doing so if they proove not to be good enough so be it. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: You don't need to be though, that is the choice of your management, Leigh are still in a DR arrangement with Saints will they use it I would prefer them not to but we don't know, I do think that DR is abhorrent and belittles the competition clubs should stand on their own feet and in doing so if they proove not to be good enough so be it. I agree, it's a short term money saving fix for both the SL and Championship clubs which in the long term is bad for both. Classic example of poor strategic thinking in the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Rumour is Newcastle looked at the books and ran away. So now it seems it’s death or Ricky Wilby. Cue violins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: I agree, it's a short term money saving fix for both the SL and Championship clubs which in the long term is bad for both. Classic example of poor strategic thinking in the sport. To be fair it really suited Saints last term Leigh gave game time to about 6 player's who all went on to perform well for Saints as the season progressed, but as a Leigh fan I couldn't get exited about them they simply were not our player's "here today gone tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: To be fair it really suited Saints last term Leigh gave game time to about 6 player's who all went on to perform well for Saints as the season progressed, but as a Leigh fan I couldn't get exited about them they simply were not our player's "here today gone tomorrow" For me it's that DR players can be taken away any time and completely wreck a Championship team's season. If Leeds had done that last year Fev wouldnt have got close to the MPG. Juniors at Championship clubs are pushed out and dragged back in randomly to accommodate them, that has to be disheartening. For the SL clubs DR players are in and out of their own development system, which is not ideal for the younger lads who should be learning and honing skills around how the club plays. No problem with a loan system however on an individual player basis and for fixed periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Rumour is Newcastle looked at the books and ran away. So now it seems it’s death or Ricky Wilby. Cue violins. That's probably a good thing for Toronto's future if Newcastle's bid was purely to move them to Gosforth. Of course no indication if Wilby's backers want them in NY or Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: For me it's that DR players can be taken away any time and completely wreck a Championship team's season. If Leeds had done that last year Fev wouldnt have got close to the MPG. Juniors at Championship clubs are pushed out and dragged back in randomly to accommodate them, that has to be disheartening. For the SL clubs DR players are in and out of their own development system, which is not ideal for the younger lads who should be learning and honing skills around how the club plays. No problem with a loan system however on an individual player basis and for fixed periods of time. Yes imagine you are player who has trained all week and the coach comes along and says "I'm standing you down this week, we have got a DR lad who will take your place" my reaction would be, Transfer please boss and stick your club up your ariss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: That's probably a good thing for Toronto's future if Newcastle's bid was purely to move them to Gosforth. Of course no indication if Wilby's backers want them in NY or Toronto. I just can’t take the Wilby consortium seriously and I doubt Super League does either. Looks grim for Toronto. Seems highly likely they will go into the Canadian form of administration, and that will be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I just can’t take the Wilby consortium seriously and I doubt Super League does either. Looks grim for Toronto. Seems highly likely they will go into the Canadian form of administration, and that will be that. Looking like it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I just can’t take the Wilby consortium seriously and I doubt Super League does either. Looks grim for Toronto. Seems highly likely they will go into the Canadian form of administration, and that will be that. No point going into Administration if you're just being liquidated. The process is designed to protect the business from creditors, make deals with those creditors if possible and subsequently move it on into new ownership as a functional entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthman Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Whippet13 said: That's probably a good thing for Toronto's future if Newcastle's bid was purely to move them to Gosforth. Of course no indication if Wilby's backers want them in NY or Toronto. Apparently they'll keep them in Toronto. Steve Mascord spoke with the man himself on his latest podcast:- https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=713411 I'm still not convinced, but what do I know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugger Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Rumour is Newcastle looked at the books and ran away. So now it seems it’s death or Ricky Wilby. Cue violins. Newcastle never had the cash to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheVee Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 If SL entertain Toronto in any form they want their heads testing. It's a lame duck, a money pit of a vanity project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, FearTheVee said: If SL entertain Toronto in any form they want their heads testing. It's a lame duck, a money pit of a vanity project. Kayakman advised "fearing the pack"! I do feel for those who took to the game, vanity project or not. Its fans like me n thee that will feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheVee Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: Kayakman advised "fearing the pack"! I do feel for those who took to the game, vanity project or not. Its fans like me n thee that will feel it. Absolutely - I would have loved to have watched a game there and it was great to see the enthusiasm that some of the locals seemed to have. But it was built on sand and doomed to failure. If it is bought again it will be a matter of time before financial reality sees us back in this place, and it will be far more difficult next time around to fool players that they are making a sound finacnial decision in joining that club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CanadianRugger said: Newcastle never had the cash to begin with. Semore Kurdi is a very wealthy man with businesses that generate actual cash on a daily basis and not just “on paper”. Cash flow is not an issue in his businesses. He has put £23m into Newcastle Falcons. To say they don’t have the cash is quite frankly ridiculous. I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAM Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Man of Kent said: I just can’t take the Wilby consortium seriously and I doubt Super League does either. Looks grim for Toronto. Seems highly likely they will go into the Canadian form of administration, and that will be that. what a little ray of sunshine you are!..let's see what Sky want, at the end of the day that's who SL have to take seriously isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, RobertAM said: what a little ray of sunshine you are!..let's see what Sky want, at the end of the day that's who SL have to take seriously isn't it? MoK may be a joyous soul.... he certainly appears to irritate the living crapola out of those who have thrown their soul into supporting this project.... which is no bad thing.... However, he's been fairly accurate(ish) on most aspects of this pantomime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, FearTheVee said: Absolutely - I would have loved to have watched a game there and it was great to see the enthusiasm that some of the locals seemed to have. mate.... it was a cracking few days. I loved it. But I've never had anything other than a brilliant time everytime I've been to that country. The match experience was second to none. They got that right..... as long as the sun was shining it was a nice little stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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