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Just now, EastLondonMike said:

Theres no going back now though. TW are persona non grata clearly. The only way back is for them to apply for admission back into the Championship, and maybe by the time they qualify for SL again the game will once again be under the control of the RFL, which many feel is just a matter of time.

I wonder if any of the other parties interested in TW prior to Livolsi getting the nod would now be interested in taking them into the Championship?

There really is no point in them joining the Championship and playing in England. The only way anything could happen is if SL agree for Toronto and someone else to be admitted to a 14 team Super League in 2022. If Toulouse were admitted next season too that would be a pretty fantastic outcome but unfortunately its probably just a pipe dream.

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2 minutes ago, Damien said:

There really is no point in them joining the Championship and playing in England. The only way anything could happen is if SL agree for Toronto and someone else to be admitted to a 14 team Super League in 2022. If Toulouse were admitted next season too that would be a pretty fantastic outcome but unfortunately its probably just a pipe dream.

Yeah you are maybe right. Unless they did receive some sort of support from the RFL for a season.. who knows. Would love to see Toronto and Toulouse in but personally not keen on a 14 team SL at the moment. Though who knows what the make up of our clubs will look like in 6months time, let alone towards the end of the 2021 season. A 12 team SL with both Toronto and Toulouse in could be a possibility, albeit a rather unlikely one.

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LiVolsi ;

“There’s still an opportunity to make this work, but they need to change their tune or allow the consortium to put a proposal together for the future."

It must be a worry for Elstone that they won't go away.

It will be interesting to see if Hetherington et al bring pressure to allow Toronto to submit a new proposal.

After all, what has Mr Elstone to fear from what they might come up with ?    oh hang on......

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/04/consortium-behind-plans-revive-toronto-wolfpack-unhappy-with-rejection-super-league-carlo-livolsi

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36 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

“There’s still an opportunity to make this work, but they need to change their tune or allow the consortium to put a proposal together for the future. Maybe you expand the league and get rid of some teams that don’t invest in it. If they don’t do that, how can the sport ever prosper?”

Unless someone wants to invest in playing in a league of relegated teams [the Championship] it won’t work for Wolf Grooming. It was Super League or bust.

and that's it in  a nutshell it's all about wolf grooming not the wolfpack not rugby league in canada not building a team  in toronto that kmans grandkids can come and watch

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1 minute ago, POR said:

Unless someone wants to invest in playing in a league of relegated teams [the Championship] it won’t work for Wolf Grooming. It was Super League or bust.

and that's it in  a nutshell it's all about wolf grooming not the wolfpack not rugby league in canada not building a team  in toronto that kmans grandkids can come and watch

He's talking about the Consortium taking over, that's obvious. I don't blame him for not wanting to take over if they aren't allowed in Super League and the message that sends. It's hardly a positive signal for ever getting in Super League again. That's not to say another consortium wont be interested but I doubt it.

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5 minutes ago, Damien said:

He's talking about the Consortium taking over, that's obvious. I don't blame him for not wanting to take over if they aren't allowed in Super League and the message that sends. It's hardly a positive signal for ever getting in Super League again. That's not to say another consortium wont be interested but I doubt it.

really 

We could have made money  with endorsements of our [Wolf Grooming] products, and that would have led to other sponsorships.

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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

“There’s still an opportunity to make this work, but they need to change their tune or allow the consortium to put a proposal together for the future. Maybe you expand the league and get rid of some teams that don’t invest in it. If they don’t do that, how can the sport ever prosper?”

Well that's two different sporting systems talking past each other right there... (without prejudice to whether either philosophy is a good idea)

"expand the league and get rid of some teams if they don't invest in it" might be the way things are done in the US (it is) but along the M62 are *any* of the club owners interested in investing more money in league shareholdings alongside their club ownership? Or in a position to do so? Really? 

Even in RU, the  Premiership A and B shares that each club has (cant remember which way round it is but one you get by being in the prem, and one you can buy after something like 4 years of being in the prem from the ex prem club in the championship - if it's been down there that long) are loose change - single figure millions. Introducing that to SL is either going to see half the clubs out or be set so low that you might as well not bother.

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1 minute ago, Man of Kent said:

So sad that Super League will never have a stable of sponsored groomers.

You not seen the Nivea or Gillette adverts including all the Liverpool players? 

We need more sponsors, and more individual sponsors. 

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4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

You not seen the Nivea or Gillette adverts including all the Liverpool players? 

We need more sponsors, and more individual sponsors. 

I even saw a Nivea one with some random Scottish RU player the other day. I'd say 99% of the population wouldn't have had a clue who he was and he was still being used as the face of Nivea.

Sponsorship and the game and players making money though should obviously be frowned upon and will never catch on.

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1 minute ago, Damien said:

I even saw a Nivea one with some random Scottish RU player the other day. I'd say 99% of the population wouldn't have had a clue who he was and he was still being used as the face of Nivea.

Sponsorship and the game and players making money though should obviously be frowned upon and will never catch on.

I know. We're too big and rich to need it. Its why our kits are walking billboards for local firms

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Little there in the article to take away that we didn’t already know. We knew they didn’t want to pay for teams to travel over, we knew they wanted the central funding, we knew they promised sponsorship through their company, we knew they only wanted to be in Super League. We also knew that the way in which the game was run was broken and not fit for purpose, as well. 

Not sure why he’s expecting Super League to come out and admit it was not a fair process. Whether it was or not, they’re just not going to backtrack in that way, so he’ll be waiting a while. 

Would also suggest that the door is firmly closed and there’s no chance of an appeal. 

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1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

So sad that Super League will never have a stable of sponsored groomers.

The England/GB RL team had Gillette as it's main sponsor for a number of years. Why should a SL club having a grooming product be an issue?

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2 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

The England/GB RL team had Gillette as it's main sponsor for a number of years. Why should a SL club having a grooming product be an issue?

Absolutely nothing. But sadly there was no evidence that having a stable of Wolf groomers would amount to a hill of beans.

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2 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

So sad that Super League will never have a stable of sponsored groomers.

I think the idea was to start with the Wolfpack sponsor - catch the eye of further advertising/sponsors to raise the profile.

This guy did okay - once he left the circus.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/nick-youngquest-paco-rabanne-invictus-fragrance-ad-interview

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3 hours ago, EastLondonMike said:

Theres no going back now though. TW are persona non grata clearly. The only way back is for them to apply for admission back into the Championship, and maybe by the time they qualify for SL again the game will once again be under the control of the RFL, which many feel is just a matter of time.

I wonder if any of the other parties interested in TW prior to Livolsi getting the nod would now be interested in taking them into the Championship?

Who says the Championship & L1 clubs would vote to let them in ?

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1 hour ago, UBranger said:

Just had a gander at rugbyleague.com. I can't see a mention about TWP! ... and RL complain about the media lol. 

Because  in reality the decision was superleague not RFL as FEV chairmen said 

“Two years ago, when the Super League broke away from the RFL, we as a club, fought tooth and nail for the RFL to keep their power as it was obvious to everyone in the game what would happen once the power was handed to the individual clubs and not the governing body.

 

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