THE RED ROOSTER Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Similarities between Western Reds and the Toronto Wolfpack with an unsustainable business model and without exchange rate issues... Quote "There is no question that the financial modelling of the Western Reds was flawed," Sackson said. "There’s an argument that arises quite often that the Western Reds failed, so rugby league will fail in the west. "What people have to understand is there are a number of reasons why the Reds eventually folded here. "Firstly, it was an unsustainable business model. There were the inflated player payments during the time of the Super League civil war versus the establishment. That put player payments through the roof. "The Western Reds had to pay for the incoming teams, coming into Perth - they had to pay for flights and accommodation for teams and then they had to fly them home. "We had to field a reserve grade team and fly them out here and home. That added up. It was an extraordinary cost." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/players-love-the-place-perth-businessman-heads-new-bid-for-nrl-team-in-west-20200212-p5407u.html Quote When the pinch comes the common people will turn out to be more intelligent than the clever ones. I certainly hope so. George Orwell You either own NFTs or women’s phone numbers but not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj1908 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 13 hours ago, THE RED ROOSTER said: Similarities between Western Reds and the Toronto Wolfpack with an unsustainable business model and without exchange rate issues... https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/players-love-the-place-perth-businessman-heads-new-bid-for-nrl-team-in-west-20200212-p5407u.html toronto dont actually pay these costs out of their pocket do they? air transat do the flights for free. and i think i read they got the accomodation for free. even if the travelling clubs didnt like the sandiwches they got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvy wg Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Or so I'm told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckymunksy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Playing for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunno much Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Hvy wg said: Or so I'm told I heard the same thing Heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, Hvy wg said: Or so I'm told He’s not an under-21 Canadian so how does he fit under the cap? Maybe they are swapping/offloading someone else to get Gigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Sources? Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner80 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 This makes sense as He's a very good utility back and isn't at a club right now. How they will get him on the Cap, I'm not sure, although given he's not at a club now maybe he will sign for the season for a moderate salary? Does anyone think they may move for Escare too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TboneFromTO Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.lindependant.fr/amp/2020/02/18/super-league-tony-gigot-a-toronto,8740606.php&ved=0ahUKEwixv9ST_tvnAhXRQxUIHfhuDbgQyM8BCCgwAA&usg=AOvVaw3T-phe7kd0SoE-NY1rwnQq&cf=1 I was interested so I googled it and that's all I got. How? How much? And who actually says..... Lots of smoke and no fire in this one if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Maybe they’ve given up the Chase to get Stanley a new passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Could it be a 2 season deal with his salary back loaded to the 2nd season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, dkw said: Could it be a 2 season deal with his salary back loaded to the 2nd season? The salary cap doesn't let you do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, LeeF said: The salary cap doesn't let you do that Doesnt it? I'm sure I remember seeing clubs do that before. I think I remember this happening at Wigan when Fielden went there which was possibly under different rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 and isn't that why wigan had points deducted because "it wasn't in the spirit of the cap" Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, dkw said: Doesnt it? I'm sure I remember seeing clubs do that before. I think I remember this happening at Wigan when Fielden went there which was possibly under different rules. The last time I read the salary cap rules - sometime last year - it basically stopped you backloading a contract. Yes you can have normal year on year increases but not say a 20%/80% split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, my missus said: and isn't that why wigan had points deducted because "it wasn't in the spirit of the cap" Yes I think youre right. 1 minute ago, LeeF said: The last time I read the salary cap rules - sometime last year - it basically stopped you backloading a contract. Yes you can have normal year on year increases but not say a 20%/80% split Ooh, they've thought of everything the sods... So basically ignore what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean de Bordeaux Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Good thing for him and for RL french team... far better than going to Runion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Is it backs they are short of ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Gigot could give the Wolfpack a leg up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, longboard said: Gigot could give the Wolfpack a leg up. A lamb in wolf's clothing I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakstorm Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 It will simply be good to have him back in the game. Whilst he has his issues, on his day he is an exciting player to watch and an important member of the French squad. PACIFIQUE TREIZE: Join the team by registering as a fan today at pacifique13.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakman Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Does a trial count on the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Mann Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 If Gigot joins Toronto, then the club will have more French players than any Super League club other than Catalans. Toronto already has Gadwin Springer and Hakim Miloudi. Gigot will be a useful addition to the team because he is a better full back than the current Toronto incumbent, and a better centre than Chase Stanley, and a better stand off than either of the Toronto incumbents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treize Hombres Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, longboard said: Gigot could give the Wolfpack a leg up. But which Toronto player will get the chop??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fevtom Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Could he sign for Rochdale and go one DR/loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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