Red Willow Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 £31million debt? that is quite something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Red Willow said: £31million debt? that is quite something It cost £26 million to build according to Wikipedia so it’s not that much of a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Red Willow said: £31million debt? that is quite something It would have been better bulldozering it years ago, selling the land and building a sensibly costed stadium on land somewhere else more akin to Broadhurst Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Plow said: It cost £26 million to build according to Wikipedia so it’s not that much of a shock. That's not value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: That's not value for money. No it’s not, what did people think at the time of it being built though? To say it’s only just started breaking even after 8 or so years is concerning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Plow said: No it’s not, what did people think at the time of it being built though? To say it’s only just started breaking even after 8 or so years is concerning At least its breaking even though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfTexEvans Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Mr Plow said: No it’s not, what did people think at the time of it being built though? To say it’s only just started breaking even after 8 or so years is concerning Its not even a good venue its unnaturally cold, soulless, hassle to reach and pay in, over aggressive security staff, sky high costs for snacks and refreshments, bad views of the pitch in a lot of areas. No at all family friendly, geared up for a drinking culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Who is the £31m owed to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: Its not even a good venue its unnaturally cold, soulless, hassle to reach and pay in, over aggressive security staff, sky high costs for snacks and refreshments, bad views of the pitch in a lot of areas. No at all family friendly, geared up for a drinking culture. Do you work for Salfords commercial department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Unbelievable if true. Yet more tax payer money to support this white elephant. Good job Sale play there or goodness knows how much more money would need to be pumped in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Who owns it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TboneFromTO Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Eddie said: Who owns it? "City of Salford community stadium ltd" Good news for Salford though! In 2018 it was valued at 6.5 million by independent evaluators - so if the council decides to sell it they won't be paying the 31! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The British Lion Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: Its not even a good venue its unnaturally cold, soulless, hassle to reach and pay in, over aggressive security staff, sky high costs for snacks and refreshments, bad views of the pitch in a lot of areas. No at all family friendly, geared up for a drinking culture Sadly, I have to agree. Ive been in the 3 concrete smaller stands (not the large all seater yet) for both RL and RU.... Traffic is mental trying to come off the M60, parked behind a church. Walked 10 mins - obviously thats fine. Sadly, no atmosphere inside the ground. Perhaps because any noise escapes outside the disjointed sides. It was freeeeeezing last week when I went to my first RU game (free ticket btw and possibly the worst game of Rugby Ive ever seen). Just an observation - perhaps they made the large all seater stand too large, and should have made the whole ground more in ratio to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 We’ll have it in Cronulla if Salford doesn’t want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The biggest mistake with the AJ Bell Stadium is the seating/standing layout. The Main Stand is fine but that’s more than enough seating, the rest of the stadium should have been made standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If as a previous poster says the stadium is only valued at 6.5m then why are Salford Council further increasing the debt to the taxpayer? If the council wants the stadium to succeed why not buy it at the valuation price. Cheaper in the long run I'm not a SRD fan , in fact I loathe them but even they must see the foolishness of this bottomless money pit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The willows should never have been sold, just upgraded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, gandalf said: If as a previous poster says the stadium is only valued at 6.5m then why are Salford Council further increasing the debt to the taxpayer? If the council wants the stadium to succeed why not buy it at the valuation price. Cheaper in the long run I'm not a SRD fan , in fact I loathe them but even they must see the foolishness of this bottomless money pit I believe the council are part owners of the company that own the stadium. You can see why Wakefield Council aren’t keen to build a stadium for Wakey or Cas, if it’s poorly planned and executed it’s a costly business. From Wikipedia Salford City Council formed a joint venture company with Peel Group[1] to develop and deliver the £16 million stadium,[3] which is part of the a £26 million development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, gandalf said: The willows should never have been sold, just upgraded It’s not a cheaper option, redevelopment at Headingley Stadium has cost £44 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: It’s not a cheaper option, redevelopment at Headingley Stadium has cost £44 million When he said upgraded, he meant three extra portable toilets and an extra fish n chip merchant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, gandalf said: The willows should never have been sold, just upgraded Wasn't the money needed by someone to pay someone else off? This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, The British Lion said: Just an observation - perhaps they made the large all seater stand too large, and should have made the whole ground more in ratio to each other. Yeah I think they got the layout badly wrong. Problem is all the hospitality is in the main stand which is why it’s so big. The location is a problem but there’s not much they could do about that. I mean where else could they have realistically built it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 15 hours ago, TheLegendOfTexEvans said: Its not even a good venue its unnaturally cold, soulless, hassle to reach and pay in, over aggressive security staff, sky high costs for snacks and refreshments, bad views of the pitch in a lot of areas. No at all family friendly, geared up for a drinking culture. 8,500 turned up for Sale's last home game on 3rd January. Are they a bit tougher than RL fans then? Maybe they turn the heating on for the union. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, gandalf said: The willows should never have been sold, just upgraded There’s cheap plans going in Wakefield & Castleford with free artist impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: It’s not a cheaper option, redevelopment at Headingley Stadium has cost £44 million That's Headingley, which has completely different and unique circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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