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1 minute ago, SSoutherner said:

Valerie Singleton for the older older codgers

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Nina Hossein, Holly Hamilton, Carol Kirkwood, David Ginola, Bryan Ferry, Sean Bean, some of the pro dancers from Strictly Come Dancing and Valerie Singleton.

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21 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

See my earlier post. There will be a huge divide between how independent sector schools and most state schools are able to cope and continue to educate.

Luckily son was at a private school (got as huge Maths scholarship) and became the IT managers right hand man so he is setting up tech with his sister and going to teach/assist her maths & physics (he got A*A*A* in Maths, further maths and physics 2 yrs ago) likely better than the teaching she will receive form a school teacher using his mobile and his uni (warwick) has moved to online only from now until Sep anyway

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Sorry. I find it highly suspicious that China, a country of 1.4 billion souls can only have 80k cases & 3k deaths whilst Italy has 28k cases and 2.2k deaths.

20 out of only 21 new cases in China are travellers from abroad??? !!! Ridiculously impossible.

India, a country of 1.3 billion next door to China, 120 cases total !!!

It's all a bit dodgy.

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21 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Sorry. I find it highly suspicious that China, a country of 1.4 billion souls can only have 80k cases & 3k deaths whilst Italy has 28k cases and 2.2k deaths.

20 out of only 21 new cases in China are travellers from abroad??? !!! Ridiculously impossible.

India, a country of 1.3 billion next door to China, 120 cases total !!!

It's all a bit dodgy.

In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur knowledge. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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4 hours ago, Wolford6 said:

Hoping for the best for you both. Plenty of people get a higher temperature from fighting "normal" colds etc.

To my mind, the only indication that Coronavirus is a genuine problem is that every country is panicking. The actual infection numbers are pretty low to date; 1543 by this morning.

Like everyone else, I'll do what is legally necessary but I suspect that governments are thinking that "If it gets really bad, at least we took precautions. If it proves to have a minor effect, that's because we took so many precautions."

Win win for them. A bit different for the people who lose jobs and businesses.

The lack of testing is why we have low infection numbers. We are not doing as the WHO recommends on this. Everyone accepts that the true numbers are many multiples of this.

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11 minutes ago, ckn said:

In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur knowledge. 

I suspect there's a strong element of that. With the added issue that if it does get into those 'segregated' communities it will be devastating.

It was one of the things I thought about on my cruise - did I mention my cruise? - especially as the islands have that potentially deadly combination of poor hygiene owing to not great resources, people living in close proximity, inter-community socialising as a norm, the need to work for pay, and only small scale (and expensive) health care. From my understanding, the same is broadly true of poorer and remote communities in the countries we're talking about. If they did pick up an infection, it would likely not be passed onto any other community but be brutal within it.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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6 minutes ago, ckn said:

In the UK, there’s very few hops between the wealthy and not wealthy in how we go around daily life. In China and India, class definitions are nailed on in many areas, including segregated by walls and enforcement. The opportunities for travel and mixing for the lower end in those countries mean that massed spreading by travel is very limited. That may help explain it from my decidedly amateur 

Yes, I agree, but still not buying the figures. 

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Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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2 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

Yes, I agree, but still not buying the figures. 

I don't blame you. There may be widespread infections that are not reported because no-one gives a damn about them. Also, remember that the more physically fit you are then the more likely you are to come out of this in good order with minimum symptoms, many robust working class folk may not even notice.

That's a massive simplification though as there are more than a few deaths of ordinarily healthy 20-40 year olds that can't be explained by low fitness or underlying conditions.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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1 minute ago, ckn said:

Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

We had a 1st wave of idiots buying up all the toilet roll & pasta last week, we have a despicable 2nd wave of utterly selfish cowards buying up the rice, paracetamol, bread, baby wipes and kitchen towels this week. 

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It's my birthday, i have the day off. I am currently at a supermarket buying a costa coffee and some cigarettes. 

It's a working day during working hours and the car park is full. There's grown men rushing around the aisles filling trolleys, i wouldn't believe it if not for my own eyes.....

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4 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

We had a 1st wave of idiots buying up all the toilet roll & pasta last week, we have a despicable 2nd wave of utterly selfish cowards buying up the rice, paracetamol, bread, baby wipes and kitchen towels this week. 

Add crisps and washing up liquid to that list.

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14 minutes ago, ckn said:

Pharmacies are starting to run out of paracetamol with people buying everything they can see. $deity wept... Pharmacists are being abused for not allowing people to buy over the over-the-counter selling maximums put in place because paracetamol is deadly in even relatively minor overdoses.

If you are buying more than one or two small boxes of paracetamol to stockpile then you are contributing to people who really need it not getting it.

Apparently raw cheap paracetemol is usually manufactured in China then shipped to India where it is made into pills/capsules and packaged into blisterpacks. The factories in china were shut and off that India deciding they might need it have put on an export ban on the finished product

 

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Just had the cry of angst from my sister in Hertfordshire opulence. She's retired after a career in the City.

There were no disposable nappies in the supermarket this week. She always buys some to hand in at the local foodbank.

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2 minutes ago, Smudger06 said:

It's a working day during working hours and the car park is full. There's grown men rushing around the aisles filling trolleys, i wouldn't believe it if ...

An absolute disgrace. That's womens' work.

 

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8 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Just had the cry of angst from my sister in Hertfordshire opulence. She's retired after a career in the City.

There were no disposable nappies in the supermarket this week. She always buys some to hand in at the local foodbank.

she should buy them some real ones then

All my 3 (youngest 13) used the same set of motherease reusables, only difference form old school terry ones is they have poppers on the corners. Saved us a fortune over the years

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At home all day today after having a massive job cancel.

Suns out, so wondered out into the garden with a coffee to have a read and listen to the radio, my backside hadn't hit the seat before our neighbours in there 70's had closed all the doors, shut there windows and sent me a text asking me to let them know when I'd gone back in.

They are currently in good health but staying at home, I have no symptoms, they know I have none as we'd been talking by text to see if and what shopping they needed.  There was 20 meters from were I was sat to there house.

Clearer information is needed either on there part or mine.

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1 minute ago, shrek said:

At home all day today after having a massive job cancel.

Suns out, so wondered out into the garden with a coffee to have a read and listen to the radio, my backside hadn't hit the seat before our neighbours in there 70's had closed all the doors, shut there windows and sent me a text asking me to let them know when I'd gone back in.

They are currently in good health but staying at home, I have no symptoms, they know I have none as we'd been talking by text to see if and what shopping they needed.  There was 20 meters from were I was sat to there house.

Clearer information is needed either on there part or mine.

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8 minutes ago, shrek said:

At home all day today after having a massive job cancel.

Suns out, so wondered out into the garden with a coffee to have a read and listen to the radio, my backside hadn't hit the seat before our neighbours in there 70's had closed all the doors, shut there windows and sent me a text asking me to let them know when I'd gone back in.

They are currently in good health but staying at home, I have no symptoms, they know I have none as we'd been talking by text to see if and what shopping they needed.  There was 20 meters from were I was sat to there house.

Clearer information is needed either on there part or mine.

i did try and find an answer to "how far it too close for corunavirus" and i could find news stories saying basically"chinese find it can travel further than expected - it can manage  to travel UP TO 4.5m"

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3 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Felicity Kendal and Diane Keen.

Duly noted and included:

I've realised that there is local news to consider as well so I've added these to the overall panel:

North: Christine Talbot, Joe Pike and Jo Blyth

Midlands: Shefali Oza and Mary Rhodes

Wales: Fran Donovan & Ioan Gruffydd

 

 

South of Watford:

Gregg Wallace, Diane Abbott and Esther Rantzen

?

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11 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Duly noted and included:

I've realised that there is local news to consider as well so I've added these to the overall panel:

North: Christine Talbot, Joe Pike and Jo Blyth

Midlands: Shefali Oza and Mary Rhodes

Wales: Fran Donovan & Ioan Gruffydd

 

 

South of Watford:

Gregg Wallace, Diane Abbott and Esther Rantzen

?

Susie Dent, Kate Silverton and Zeinab Badawi please

 

I now have a vision of Wolford doing an impression of Alan Partridge and going

Yes, yes and yes :kolobok_biggrin:

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4 minutes ago, Shadow said:

Susie Dent, Kate Silverton and Zeinab Badawi please

 

I now have a vision of Wolford doing an impression of Alan Partridge and going

Yes, yes and yes :kolobok_biggrin:

I see all that and raise you Nina Hossain. With the weather covered by Lucy Verasamy.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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