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2 minutes ago, fairfolly said:

A very moderate amount of fines been given out in my area,mainly Brit. dog walkers.The message seems to have got through not as many now, However a woman three villas down from me is still doing it and is adamant she will keep on walking as her dog will not go to the toilet in her own garden.British by the way. You could not make it up,a dog that will not go to the toilet in its own garden.I am just praying that she gets caught,she obviously is quite happy to accept a 600 euro fine,see if she is if she gets caught twice. Somebody else will have to walk the dog as she will be in a prison cell,deservedly so  to.

That dog will go for a ###### somewhere, at some point. Better out than in, both for the dog and her house. She's another "idiot exposed."

"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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Well 3 months pay has arrived in my bank account, and it's not payday.  I guess I now know what the big meeting this afternoon is about.  

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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1 hour ago, ckn said:

p.s. Regardless of the serious political grumbles we’ve had, I respect you and can’t see any circumstance where I’d put you on ignore. Now, t’other one, I don’t have the mental reserves now for that so she is. 

I love the neutrality of the mods on here.  Encouraging a pile on?  Yeah, why not!  Let's really get it going and bully someone off the board.

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6 hours ago, MattSantos said:

From Friday (March 27), people in Singapore who sit less than 1m away from another person in a public place or on a fixed seat marked as not to be occupied, or who stand in a queue less than 1m away from another person, can be fined up to $10,000, jailed for up to six months, or both 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-safe-distancing-rules-kick-in-failure-to-sit-or-queue-1m-apart-from-others

That's the nature of Singapore.  I think people are jailed for dropping chewing gum on the floor.  

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9 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Well 3 months pay has arrived in my bank account, and it's not payday.  I guess I now know what the big meeting this afternoon is about.  

Ah, ######

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11 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

I love the neutrality of the mods on here.  Encouraging a pile on?  Yeah, why not!  Let's really get it going and bully someone off the board.

Given how busy the NHS is at the moment, with things supposedly at "crisis level", it's amazing how much time can be devoted to the important job of "modding" and telling everybody else how wrong they are (about absolutely everything).

Perhaps less time spent browsing the web and more spent on coronavirus???

Just a suggestion.

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19 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Well 3 months pay has arrived in my bank account, and it's not payday.  I guess I now know what the big meeting this afternoon is about.  

If they’re making you redundant then they have to go through the correct process, which just paying you 3 months pay without consulting you before hand isn’t 

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2 hours ago, ckn said:

GPs are getting SOME. We’re now at zero supplies across most of our patch with some getting none at all. 

We have supplies at the moment (GP surgery Bucks).  All routine referrals have now ceased.  Some of the GPs are showing signs of increased stress levels but unlike secondary care we do have the luxury of closing our door for phone call screening and when patients do arrive they can enter the foyer and be screened again by intercom as to whether they have an appointment and usual questions about foreign travel/symptoms before they come in.  Receptionists are pretty much exhausted at entire shifts spent on the phone repeating the same advice mantra over and over and often fielding abuse from callers.  We are getting information from secondary care regarding cancelled outpatient clinics.  At some points in the day it is impossible to contact any of the local hospitals as their phone lines are being used to full capacity calling patients to cancel clinics.  Dermatology are asking us to simply send photos of rashes etc for advice, Neurology can often video call patients, Complex Needs clinics are suspended and Vague Symptoms pathway also, Cardiology are triaging back to us asking the GPs for more in depth information so they can only see the more urgent cases.  Ladies giving birth can only have one person as a birthing partner (that may have changed to no one now I'm not sure) and no visitors for anyone obviously which must be hard for the families.  General Surgeons sent a note asking us to limit prescriptions of antibiotics.  Not sure what that means, maybe ckn does?

In the blink of an eye it could all be taken away.  Be grateful always.

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7 hours ago, MattSantos said:

From Friday (March 27), people in Singapore who sit less than 1m away from another person in a public place or on a fixed seat marked as not to be occupied, or who stand in a queue less than 1m away from another person, can be fined up to $10,000, jailed for up to six months, or both 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-safe-distancing-rules-kick-in-failure-to-sit-or-queue-1m-apart-from-others

 

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Puts our £30 fine in context. Fines in Spain and France are far higher too.

My Linkedin feed has a video of Indian Police riding round on motorbikes with big sticks laying into people breaking the lockdown.

If I knew how to copy it I'd put it on here, it's quite......interesting seeing different policing methods.

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1 minute ago, Shadow said:

 

My Linkedin feed has a video of Indian Police riding round on motorbikes with big sticks laying into people breaking the lockdown.

If I knew how to copy it I'd put it on here, it's quite......interesting seeing different policing methods.

I've seen that, quite brutal. I know a big thing here is policing by consent, which I do think is often abused, but its a fine line. It certainly isn't a concept shared by many countries which go far too far the other way without any real checks and measures.

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30 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

If they’re making you redundant then they have to go through the correct process, which just paying you 3 months pay without consulting you before hand isn’t 

They will go bankrupt this afternoon.  So I’m quite grateful I got any money right now.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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2 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

They will go bankrupt this afternoon.  So I’m quite grateful I got any money right now.

Obviously that's terrible news if it happens but its great that they ensured you got 3 months pay.

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3 minutes ago, Damien said:

Obviously that's terrible news if it happens but its great that they ensured you got 3 months pay.

Yes it’s a big silver lining, and provides a certain safety net.  Obviously I’d rather keep the job or even furloughed but there you go.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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27 minutes ago, Damien said:

Are NHS staff not allowed free time too?

They are allowed no downtime at all. They must work like slaves.

Except we're all overreacting. It's just a cold.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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39 minutes ago, heartofGold said:

We have supplies at the moment (GP surgery Bucks).  All routine referrals have now ceased.  Some of the GPs are showing signs of increased stress levels but unlike secondary care we do have the luxury of closing our door for phone call screening and when patients do arrive they can enter the foyer and be screened again by intercom as to whether they have an appointment and usual questions about foreign travel/symptoms before they come in.  Receptionists are pretty much exhausted at entire shifts spent on the phone repeating the same advice mantra over and over and often fielding abuse from callers.  We are getting information from secondary care regarding cancelled outpatient clinics.  At some points in the day it is impossible to contact any of the local hospitals as their phone lines are being used to full capacity calling patients to cancel clinics.  Dermatology are asking us to simply send photos of rashes etc for advice, Neurology can often video call patients, Complex Needs clinics are suspended and Vague Symptoms pathway also, Cardiology are triaging back to us asking the GPs for more in depth information so they can only see the more urgent cases.  Ladies giving birth can only have one person as a birthing partner (that may have changed to no one now I'm not sure) and no visitors for anyone obviously which must be hard for the families.  General Surgeons sent a note asking us to limit prescriptions of antibiotics.  Not sure what that means, maybe ckn does?

On the last part, perfect timing as I'm just off a meds management call.

SOME GPs are giving patients longer prescriptions to allow them to only go once to a pharmacy. That's putting the same strain on the system as people going and buying a lifetime of bog roll.

I'd be surprised if there's a hospital or community team accepting any referrals from GPs except for life/limb saving referrals. None in London are anyway. Those patients have to have interim care until it's all over and that's GPs. That's where the big strain is going to come.

On antibiotics, a core secondary treatment for patients with high to severe symptoms of COVID-19 is antibiotic loading to protect from bacterial pneumonia setting in. There's no shortage for now but stockpiling in hospitals is being ordered in case there's a surge, that means any GP giving antibiotics too easily for minor things is being "encouraged" to stop.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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8 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

They are allowed no downtime at all. They must work like slaves.

Except we're all overreacting. It's just a cold.

I post on here at my tea breaks. I schedule in 5-10 minute breaks an hour. That allows me to do 14 hour days without breaking.

Also, I like sharing knowledge!

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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47 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

If they’re making you redundant then they have to go through the correct process, which just paying you 3 months pay without consulting you before hand isn’t 

There’s gonna be a lot of corner cutting in the current environment though.  It’s a calculated risk by businesses in the current climate ie reducing headcount outweighs risk of claims being brought (and funded) by ex-employees.

(Sorry Beford Roughyed I don’t mean to talk about your - possible - situation dispassionately, although to be honest I doubt many out there feel job safe)

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