Jump to content

coronavirus


Recommended Posts

4 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

We have never tested at airports, no.  There have been two reasons given for that.  Firstly, if we had adopted the common approach of the time, namely a temperature test, they were useless.  The first known case into the USA was temperature tested at the entry airport, found to be fine, but became the first known case of covid in the USA.  Secondly, we didn't have the resources, and still don't, to swab test everyone at airports.  As far as I'm aware, no country in Europe swab tests at airports?

Er, we ARE a hotspot!  Have you not noticed?!

Ok so we've never tested at airports. One way to completely contradict your previous post then I suppose.

A hotspot in lockdown. You know lockdown as in social distancing, preventing the spread and all that. People freely entering without any checks isn't a particularly great way of preventing further spread.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Replies 7.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Oh look! The BBC made a mistake. How convenient.

Earlier on Friday we reported that a boss of an NHS trust had contacted the BBC with concerns about the provision of gowns for staff during the coronavirus crisis.

He had asked the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour - two companies which have become involved in making gowns - because he was concerned about supply shortages.

We should clarify that the person concerned is not the boss of an NHS trust but is part of a network of organisations helping to source personal protective equipment for some NHS trusts.

The mistake was caused by a misunderstanding of the person's role in the fight against the pandemic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, Damien said:

Ok so we've never tested at airports. One way to completely contradict your previous post then I suppose.

Er, why?  In what way have I contradicted my own point?

Quote

A hotspot in lockdown. You know lockdown as in social distancing, preventing the spread and all that. People freely entering without any checks isn't a particularly great way of preventing further spread.

I do know all that. Do you know our numbers of deaths?  Do you ever compare those to the very places you consider hotspots?  And those same places, are they not also in lockdown?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Er, why?  In what way have I contradicted my own point?

I do know all that. Do you know our numbers of deaths?  Do you ever compare those to the very places you consider hotspots?  And those same places, are they not also in lockdown?

No wonder so many people put you on ignore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

That made absolutely no sense to me following on from my post.  Or indeed in any context.

You said yesterday and were very clear that we have always tested everyone arriving from Italy.

HTH.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, BryanC said:

 

I'm aware of one NHS worker who is currently on the sick and is helping with lambing on the family farm.

They are not all "angels".

Nobody care to comment?

By the way. Same person takes the same three weeks off fer t'lambing for the last five or six years.

I repeat.

Care to comment?

Thought not.

Want to join in clapping on Thursday?

Jesus Christ, what's WRONG with you people???

One thing's for certain. When the smoke clears, the only people / jobs/ pensions will be unaffected are the public sector and the "holy of holies" NHS.

God help the rest of you and may the devil take the hindmost.

I wish you luck, but sadly feel that so many of you will need it.

Don't bother to reply / respond / slag me off again. I feel that I'm probably done on here for now.

I may revisit this forum when this nonsense has run it's course. 

Tinkety Tonk.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, BryanC said:

Nobody care to comment?

By the way. Same person takes the same three weeks off fer t'lambing for the last five or six years.

I repeat.

Care to comment?

Want to join in clapping on Thursday?

Jesus Christ, what's WRONG with you people???

So your trolling attempt failed and are quoting yourself in another lame attempt to provoke. Pathetic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, BryanC said:

Nobody care to comment?

By the way. Same person takes the same three weeks off fer t'lambing for the last five or six years.

I repeat.

Care to comment?

Thought not.

Want to join in clapping on Thursday?

Jesus Christ, what's WRONG with you people???

One thing's for certain. When the smoke clears, the only people / jobs/ pensions will be unaffected are the public sector and the "holy of holies" NHS.

God help the rest of you and may the devil take the hindmost.

I wish you luck, but sadly feel that so many of you will need it.

Don't bother to reply / respond / slag me off again. I feel that I'm probably done on here for now.

I may revisit this forum when this nonsense has run it's course. 

Tinkety Tonk.

An observation that not absolutely everyone who works in the NHS is an angel is too banal to be worthy of much in the way of comment.

Also, if you think NHS people will be unaffected by this crisis then I'd like to sample some of your drugs.

I hope you enjoy your break.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

Nope.

We tested and are still testing everyone coming in from Italy.

Someone was on here only yesterday saying as much.

Mates son's entire school trip returned from a hot spot in Italy just as this kicked off - no testing or info at Gatwick as they returned, parent of a class mate was the original "teacher at WillowBank primary" in Woodley Berks on Mar1st - https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18272602.reading-teacher-coronavirus-scare/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

34 minutes ago, wilsontown said:

An observation that not absolutely everyone who works in the NHS is an angel is too banal to be worthy of much in the way of comment.

Also, if you think NHS people will be unaffected by this crisis then I'd like to sample some of your drugs.

I hope you enjoy your break.

The trouble is, when people like that announce the flounce, they rarely leave at that point. They hang around, hoping for a reaction (or, if desperate, some support), so hi there Bryan! I look forward to reading your book Win friends and followers with name-calling and aggressively misguided pedantry.

Self-published, I'd guess.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Saintslass said:

Oh look! The BBC made a mistake. How convenient.

Earlier on Friday we reported that a boss of an NHS trust had contacted the BBC with concerns about the provision of gowns for staff during the coronavirus crisis.

He had asked the BBC for the phone numbers of Burberry and Barbour - two companies which have become involved in making gowns - because he was concerned about supply shortages.

We should clarify that the person concerned is not the boss of an NHS trust but is part of a network of organisations helping to source personal protective equipment for some NHS trusts.

The mistake was caused by a misunderstanding of the person's role in the fight against the pandemic.

I expect GJ will be on here shortly correcting his earlier response to  my mention of this. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, BryanC said:

Nobody care to comment?

By the way. Same person takes the same three weeks off fer t'lambing for the last five or six years.

I repeat.

Care to comment?

Thought not.

Want to join in clapping on Thursday?

Jesus Christ, what's WRONG with you people???

One thing's for certain. When the smoke clears, the only people / jobs/ pensions will be unaffected are the public sector and the "holy of holies" NHS.

God help the rest of you and may the devil take the hindmost.

I wish you luck, but sadly feel that so many of you will need it.

Don't bother to reply / respond / slag me off again. I feel that I'm probably done on here for now.

I may revisit this forum when this nonsense has run it's course. 

Tinkety Tonk.

Bye , mind you don't trip up on your way out 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Bob8 said:

The areas that will have the most trouble are areas like London and New York, I would imagine. There is far more space in Copnehagen or Oslo than there is in London. On the other hand, UK and Russian death figures appear to be optimisitic.

It is always dangerous to compare directly.

Yes indeed. I'll say it again, the really meaningful comparisons are with the past present and future in one country, providing of course their is no change in the way things are measured. International comparisons are fraught with danger. A good example being the impression over the last few days that all lockdown are the same, when we know from reports on here from different  ountries that some countries lockdowns are more restrictive than others. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, BryanC said:

Nobody care to comment?

By the way. Same person takes the same three weeks off fer t'lambing for the last five or six years.

I repeat.

Care to comment?

Thought not.

Want to join in clapping on Thursday?

Jesus Christ, what's WRONG with you people???

One thing's for certain. When the smoke clears, the only people / jobs/ pensions will be unaffected are the public sector and the "holy of holies" NHS.

God help the rest of you and may the devil take the hindmost.

I wish you luck, but sadly feel that so many of you will need it.

Don't bother to reply / respond / slag me off again. I feel that I'm probably done on here for now.

I may revisit this forum when this nonsense has run it's course. 

Tinkety Tonk.

No, they are not all angels. In such a huge organisation, there are bound to be some with lower standards than everyone else. 

However, even the severest critic would acknowledge the anxiety and fear that many NHS personel must experience when there are so many conflicting and negative stories in the news. Some media outlets seem to delight in digging up doom mongering specialists, or painting things as dark as possible. Look at the delight at the BBC as it published the lie that an NHS director had rung the BBC to get the phone number of Barbour. 

Clap the NHS? It's not a legal requirement yet, is it? I don't join in, preferring instead to do my best to ensure that by my behaviour I do not add to the NHS workload. 

Yes at the end of this, unless anyone knows better, the majority of state sector employees will still be paid, still get their pensions etc,  and indeed I'm advising my youngest grand-children to make sure that they get state sector jobs when they grow up. I have no doubt though that many non-NHS bureaucrats are putting the hours to handle the current heavy workload. 

As one who has on a few occasions kept away from the forums, mainly the political ones, I'd advise you to stay and fight. This is a predominantly left of centre set of forums, with what seems to be a significant proportion of posters being in the state sector and posters  need to be challenged. 

There are, of course a number of left of centre posters who make valuable contributions to discussions.

The rest I have on ignore. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I expect GJ will be on here shortly correcting his earlier response to  my mention of this. 

I suspect from the message i got via an ex school facebook group desperately looking for people who could make facemasks this may be whichever trust is closest to Brighton

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, fairfolly said:

Grandaughters husband gets 6 months full pay and 6 months half pay. Grandaughter gets 4 months full pay and four half pay.

It's not something you 'get' every year.  It's not part of your leave.  Having cancer or god knows what else isn't regarded as a fun activity.  

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Copa said:

Canberra’s stats today. It’s looking very good but I don’t know what the end game will be. I mean, do we just wait until a vaccine? That could be forever. 

 

6D2195E4-4861-4E62-8590-D94FF8606B82.jpeg

Yes, but that would, were it accurate, be a very alarming death rate. I suggest it is not accurate. But, still, it is looking far better.

My sister works in the ICU in Australia, has plenty of PPE and is not very busy. It is looking better.

"You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014

Link to comment
Share on other sites

33 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

Yes, but that would, were it accurate, be a very alarming death rate. I suggest it is not accurate. But, still, it is looking far better.

My sister works in the ICU in Australia, has plenty of PPE and is not very busy. It is looking better.

Every case in Canberra except for one has been connected to an overseas traveler. Two of the deaths were from people who were ill while outside of Australia on the same cruise ship and then returned home.

Unnervingly, the other death was an elderly man who had not traveled and had no connection to anyone who had traveled. He was also in self isolation for quite some time out of fear of the virus and had only been out shopping twice. That tells me it’s out there undetected in the Canberra community, which is no surprise.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, JohnM said:

I expect GJ will be on here shortly correcting his earlier response to  my mention of this. 

This would appear to be a political point and it has been confirmed by the government that they can't guarantee supplies of gowns which have also been confirmed to be running low.

So, always happy to correct. But it doesn't make the issue go away.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Just what they need, a trite shallow comment.

I never claim to be anything but shallow.

A week ago (roughly) you gave the lockdown two weeks.

Still think that?

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Deeply worrying figures if anywhere hear accurate:

The number of care home residents who have died of suspected coronavirus may have reached 7,500, according to the latest estimate, The Telegraph has learned.

New data collated by Care England, the country's largest representative body for care homes, suggests the number of deaths from Covid-19 is far higher than its previous estimate of 1,400 from earlier this week.

The number is also far in advance of the official figure from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), which has recorded 217 care home deaths from the virus up to April 3 – the most recent date for which official data is available. 

However, as the Government published its daily update on coronavirus hospital deaths on Friday, which showed a rise to 14,576, it emerged that the death toll in UK care homes is suspected to be much bigger than previously feared. 

Professor Martin Green, the chief executive of Care England, told The Telegraph that around 7,500 people may have died in care homes as a result of the virus. 

"Without testing, it is very difficult to give an absolute figure," he said. "However, if we look at some of the death rates since April 1 and compare them with previous years' rates, we estimate a figure of about 7,500 people may have died as a result of Covid-19."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/number-coronavirus-deaths-care-homes-could-high-7500-according/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.