Damien Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Over 65,000 dead now in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Damien said: Over 65,000 dead now in the US. The IHME projection was 68,000 at one point, it's now saying 74,000. My guess (just eyeballing the graphs) would be 100,000+. There are also a lot of unexplained deaths (i.e. heart attacks at home, etc) that are not currently counted. Anecdotally there are significant numbers of these in places like New York. They also have big care homes, one in New York reported 98 deaths out of 700 beds. With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 An example of how things are not black and white: This Government billboard is advertising remote walks, which are suitable for social distancing. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave T said: Aye, once again I'm posting on the wrong bloody thread! It's easy done when there are two threads on essentially the same topic. There is bound to be some crossover and confusion. Main issue is .. no-one's getting lairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: It's easy done when there are two threads on essentially the same topic. There is bound to be some crossover and confusion. Main issue is .. no-one's getting lairy. The problem is that someone will, add to that that many folk (quite probably the largest portion of UK society) are sick to their back teeth of politics and want to get away from it. Some people genuinely do come here to read this thread because it doesn't have either the political or rugby tribalism wrecking it. It's supposed to be a sane space. I know this because they're the ones who hit "report" and send me messages asking me nicely to keep this bit of the forum politics free. It's the same principle as why we have a cross-code forum, people with that particular set of desires to argue either way on that can go there and pleasure each other out of the sight of civilised folk. I turn a bit of a blind eye to political posts that are done with good intent and are clearly not tribal as long as they're rare and don't materially set it up to be responded to by someone who will make it tribal. Please keep the forum as sane as you can make it. As a guide, if you're saying ANYTHING about this government or any other government action then it's political whether it's good news or not. Only if you can truly justify it as genuinely not a political point should you post it on this thread. Treat this like a pub. This is the lounge where you can bring your family and the bar staff will shoo along the angry old drunks who just can't let people enjoy a pint in peace to the bar next door. The bar is where the angry old drunks can just rant about the world all day out of the sight of civilised folk. Oh, and 88 posts moved to the politics thread! "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, ckn said: The problem is that someone will, add to that that many folk (quite probably the largest portion of UK society) are sick to their back teeth of politics and want to get away from it. Some people genuinely do come here to read this thread because it doesn't have either the political or rugby tribalism wrecking it. It's supposed to be a sane space. etc etc etc etc. Oh, and 88 posts moved to the politics thread! I agree, although sometimes someone may think something is political when its not intended to be. Then again our inner unknown bias may prevent us seeing it. Anyway keep up the good work... it mustn't be easy but we or more precise myself do appreciate what your doing to try and keep us on the straight and narrow of polite and civilised discussion. Thanks again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ckn said: The problem is that someone will, add to that that many folk (quite probably the largest portion of UK society) are sick to their back teeth of politics and want to get away from it. Some people genuinely do come here to read this thread because it doesn't have either the political or rugby tribalism wrecking it. It's supposed to be a sane space. I know this because they're the ones who hit "report" and send me messages asking me nicely to keep this bit of the forum politics free. It's the same principle as why we have a cross-code forum, people with that particular set of desires to argue either way on that can go there and pleasure each other out of the sight of civilised folk. I turn a bit of a blind eye to political posts that are done with good intent and are clearly not tribal as long as they're rare and don't materially set it up to be responded to by someone who will make it tribal. Please keep the forum as sane as you can make it. As a guide, if you're saying ANYTHING about this government or any other government action then it's political whether it's good news or not. Only if you can truly justify it as genuinely not a political point should you post it on this thread. Treat this like a pub. This is the lounge where you can bring your family and the bar staff will shoo along the angry old drunks who just can't let people enjoy a pint in peace to the bar next door. The bar is where the angry old drunks can just rant about the world all day out of the sight of civilised folk. Oh, and 88 posts moved to the politics thread! Indeed, and apologies for my part in it, I have little desire to turn everything political, but it is hard to not discuss government performance when the conversation is about test numbers. I'll certainly try and be more mindful of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dave T said: I have little desire to turn everything political you could turn a 4 year olds birthday party at jungle jims in to a political debate see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: you could turn a 4 year olds birthday party at jungle jims in to a political debate I'm conscious that your reality isn't like most other people's, but to clarify I am not a prolific poster on politics treads here as they are too time consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave T said: I'm conscious that your reality isn't like most other people's, but to clarify I am not a prolific poster on politics treads here as they are too time consuming. stop bringing stupid old boring reality up - I don't like it see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: stop bringing stupid old boring reality up - I don't like it Sorry. Whoknows what reality even is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave T said: Sorry. Whoknows what reality even is now? It's what we get told it is, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Damien said: It's what we get told it is, isn't it? yep... and non of us are precise or specific in what we state either... I guess that's why any contracts have long definitions of what a term or word is meant to mean... not what we assume it means. I mean if I say yep and shaking my head I mean no... but if nodding I mean yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 although theres no sport david ike v mark zukenberg is becoming quite a match up see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The TV mouths-on-a-stick are always banging on about the folly of the Cheltenham racemeeting taking place against warnings of potential Covid-spread by a huge crowd. I haven't seen any figures about how many attendees caught it there. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: The TV mouths-on-a-stick are always banging on about the folly of the Cheltenham racemeeting taking place against warnings of potential Covid-spread by a huge crowd. I haven't seen any figures about how many attendees caught it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Death rate of 50 per 100,000 ... in a town known to have a high percentage of ageing residents ... 48% over 65 years old and more dementia patients than Gloucester. You've quoted an organisation also dealing with the at-risk sector. Cheltenham death rate is lower than South East Wales and Milton Keynes. Absolute over-reaction by the Mediamerchants. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: Death rate of 50 per 100,000 ... in a town known to have a high percentage of ageing residents ... 48% over 65 years old and more dementia patients than Gloucester. You've quoted an organisation also dealing with the at-risk sector. Cheltenham death rate is lower than South East Wales and Milton Keynes. Absolute over-reaction by the Mediamerchants. St Helens has had the worst death rate in Merseyside on numerous occasions and at one time it was, per capita, one of the highest death rates in England. St Helens is nowhere near Cheltenham but it got a big spike in cases and deaths. There have been spikes all over the country. Blaming a particular event makes some people feel sanctimonious but it doesn't mean they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: Death rate of 50 per 100,000 ... in a town known to have a high percentage of ageing residents ... 48% over 65 years old and more dementia patients than Gloucester. You've quoted an organisation also dealing with the at-risk sector. Cheltenham death rate is lower than South East Wales and Milton Keynes. Absolute over-reaction by the Mediamerchants. You do realise that many people going to Cheltenham will be traveling from elsewhere. Thousands come from Ireland alone and cases in Ireland have been traced back to Cheltenham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Damien said: You do realise that many people going to Cheltenham will be traveling from elsewhere. Thousands come from Ireland alone and cases in Ireland have been traced back to Cheltenham. I'm sure cases in Ireland have been traced back to, er, Ireland as well. Should Ireland not have been allowed to take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bedford Roughyed Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On Good Morning Britain Dr Hilary Jones was saying that NHS workers are 12 times more likely to get Covid-19 than anyone else. I always knew the risk was a lot higher but have never seen a figure like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said: Without that gadget, Little Ginger wouldn't be here today. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Damien said: On Good Morning Britain Dr Hilary Jones was saying that NHS workers are 12 times more likely to get Covid-19 than anyone else. I always knew the risk was a lot higher but have never seen a figure like that. That's brutal. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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