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Sometimes, the lefty liberal in me is replaced by a harrumphing old Colonel sitting in a leather armchair in his club with a whisky and a copy of The Telegraph.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52227363

"Hanging's too good for 'em. "

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Too much "whicky"

"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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3 minutes ago, JohnM said:

It seems to me, having watched Sky News, BBC News  and the 5pm press conferences and having read the on-line editions of the Guardian, the Mail, and the Times and Telegraph tasters, that the only people making an issue out of the ending of the lockdown are the media reporters. Certainly views on here across the whole political spectrum are against any easing. The media is stoking up an expectation amongst some that the rules might soon be relaxed, whilst at the same time stoking up an expectation that they will be tightened. They should stick to reporting on hatches and matches, something they are good at.

If you go on the main board there are a few voices saying that they expect we'll be getting back to normal 'very soon'. There are clearly people - I really don't think very many but enough to be a distraction - who think the lockdown is too harsh, too severe or, even, so illiberal that they would rather catch the virus than endure the loss of freedom.

But, you're right, by far the majority of people are in favour of ongoing restrictions.


Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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Suggestion - if you're booking such an expensive holiday, do it through a repsectable travel agency or get good travel insurance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52206832

I'm very bitter today for some reason.


"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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3 minutes ago, shrek said:

A map of idiots in Greater Manchester!

 

And that's just the ones that are known about.

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1 hour ago, Bob8 said:

It is true though. My life has been easier, I might be getting a large bonus as my productivity is actually up. My bank balance is better, I am catching up with old friends. 

For me to pretend I am getting through this by being brave or we are all in it equally would be odd. 

Indeed Bob , from my perspective things aren't drastically different , I am self employed , but don't work every week , last year I did probably 26 week's work , so spent the other half at home , partly recuperating as at 59 years old and doing a physically hard job I do need to recover , so with the money I will receive from the govt I can easily survive , I don't expect to work again till late July/August , so have set a whole load of work in the large garden , stuff I'd never have got done , I do around 5 hours a day ( being being very careful from a safety aspect ) so as not to do too much 

If I lived in a flat or without a garden I'd be climbing the walls by now , I really feel for them 

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7 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Indeed Bob , from my perspective things are drastically different , I am self employed , but don't work every week , last year I did probably 26 week's work , so spent the other half at home , partly recuperating as at 59 years old and doing a physically hard job I do need to recover , so with the money I will receive from the govt I can easily survive , I don't expect to work again till late July/August , so have set a whole load of work in the large garden , stuff I'd never have got done , I do around 5 hours a day ( being being very careful from a safety aspect ) so as not to do too much 

If I lived in a flat or without a garden I'd be climbing the walls by now , I really feel for them 

Interesting to hear. And, the garden must be a Godsend. Stay safe!


"You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014

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19 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

If you go on the main board there are a few voices saying that they expect we'll be getting back to normal 'very soon'. There are clearly people - I really don't think very many but enough to be a distraction - who think the lockdown is too harsh, too severe or, even, so illiberal that they would rather catch the virus than endure the loss of freedom.

But, you're right, by far the majority of people are in favour of ongoing restrictions.

Adam Boulton on Sky has just asked the same question about lockdown ending to a scientific advisor to the Scottish Government . It’s just like a kid endlessly saying ‘ are we there yet ‘ .  Its gonna be a big problem I think , especially when we finally start seeing figures getting slightly better , and people say ‘ ok why am I still in lockdown ? ‘ .  It could easily start to unravel and then we’re back at square one 

On the subject of inane questions , it’s getting very tedious having presenters asking the same questions endlessly to anyone who has a webcam and will come on the news .... countless clinicians get the same questions on the virus , and people who’ve had it get the same questions on ‘ tell us what happened ‘

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14 minutes ago, tim2 said:

Sometimes, the lefty liberal in me is replaced by a harrumphing old Colonel sitting in a leather armchair in his club with a whicky and a copy of The Telegraph.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52227363

"Hanging's too good for 'em. "

The squaddie in me comes out at that time and thinking what I'd "require" a squaddie under me to do if found doing that. "7 days of twice daily block toilet cleaning by tongue then a proper disinfecting using normal stuff"


"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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4 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Adam Boulton on Sky has just asked the same question about lockdown ending to a scientific advisor to the Scottish Government . It’s just like a kid endlessly saying ‘ are we there yet ‘ .  Its gonna be a big problem I think , especially when we finally start seeing figures getting slightly better , and people say ‘ ok why am I still in lockdown ? ‘ .  It could easily start to unravel and then we’re back at square one 

"It's only a thousand dead today, why can't Warrington play Wigan in an empty stadium on TV?"

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40 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

If I lived in a flat or without a garden I'd be climbing the walls by now

I've not had a garden for years, and I have never wanted one more.  

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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34 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

I've not had a garden for years, and I have never wanted one more.  

You can have mine. Can't stand gardening.

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Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police

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7 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

You can have mine. Can't stand gardening.

Astroturf.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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The good: Coronavirus: Miss England returning to her job as an NHS junior doctor ( at my nearest hospital!)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-52219570

 

The bad: Arrests after men lick hands and wipe supermarket food

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52227363

 

The ugly: Ofcom 'assesses' David Icke TV interview

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52228046

 

 


Four legs good - two legs bad

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No commentary needed on this... and deliberately not a political thread point.

 


"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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34 minutes ago, ckn said:

No commentary needed on this... and deliberately not a political thread point.

 

Isn't some of this down to the lag in reporting deaths? If it takes a few days for a death to show up in the statistics then you'd expect the revised daily deaths to be higher while the death rate is still accelerating.

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Awful and tragic story. One of many at the moment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52227755

 


"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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I understand why the media make these mistakes, because the four nations of the UK report their own, but they really shouldn't be making them now.

765 people died in ENGLISH hospitals over that 24 hour period, 887 died in the UK in total.


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Not sure if something like this can be classed as  'good news' , but it's been reported down here on the south east news, and I paraphrase,  that the hospitals down here are coping quite well with the virus and the intensive care units are only three quarters full (good news ?) and that the Nightingale Hospitals are not needed yet.  Predictions showed them as being opened and quite full by now. 

Found this in the Guardian, but its a couple of days old

Guardian article

 

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8 minutes ago, ckn said:

I understand why the media make these mistakes, because the four nations of the UK report their own, but they really shouldn't be making them now.

765 people died in ENGLISH hospitals over that 24 hour period, 887 died in the UK in total.

I think they are all making a bit of a pigs ear of it tbh. We announce these random numbers, the scientists talk about green shoots and then we find out it was a record day of deaths. 

Ace. 

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1 minute ago, Jasper said:

Not sure if something like this can be classed as  'good news' , but it's been reported down here on the south east news, and I paraphrase,  that the hospitals down here are coping quite well with the virus and the intensive care units are only three quarters full (good news ?) and that the Nightingale Hospitals are not needed yet.  Predictions showed them as being opened and quite full by now. 

Found this in the Guardian, but its a couple of days old

Guardian article

 

We took the lessons from Italy and Spain, worked out their demand, and then added on the Nightingale hospitals.

London's Nightingale took its first patients last night.

Years of "fair winds" work done in mere weeks.

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1 minute ago, ckn said:

We took the lessons from Italy and Spain, worked out their demand, and then added on the Nightingale hospitals.

London's Nightingale took its first patients last night.

Years of "fair winds" work done in mere weeks.

Cheers for the update, think I am just trying to look out for any bit of 'good news' from this awful situation.

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