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This would be pretty amazing if it worked (from BBC latest news):

Raspberry Pi-powered ventilator to be tested in Colombia

A team in Colombia is to test a ventilator made with a Raspberry Pi computer and easy-to-source parts.

The design and computer code were posted online in March by a man in California, who had no prior experience at creating medical equipment.

Marco Mascorro, a robotics engineer, said he had built the ventilator because knew the machines were in high demand to treat Covid-19.

"I am a true believer that technology can solve a lot of the problems we have right now specifically in this pandemic," he told the BBC.

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Well... after 66 days in ICU my sister's fella who was described as being as near to death as can be without dying.... has made it. He's home. Half the fella he was.... and the virus has ravaged his l

I'm not putting up with this goading of a volunteer moderator who does a sterling job on my behalf generally on here, but especially recently when I was ill for almost a month with what might well hav

Well my sister's fella is making very small steps in the right direction. From being described as as near to death without being dead, he's now sat up, off dialysis and yesterday was breathing on

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1 hour ago, Wholly Trinity said:

Indeed Indonesia is difficult to predict how it will go. It has the potential to be devastating.

The latest figures are:

  • 4,557 cases
  • 3,778 under treatment
  • 380 recovered
  • 399 deaths.

There is a population of 260 million on a sprawling archipelago of 17,000 islands.

However, 2/3 of that population live on the very densely populated island of Java, where the majority of cases have been reported. (315 of 399 deaths in Java, with 204 in the capital Jakarta alone).

There is an advantage for isolation in that transport between the islands can be closed down. The responsibility for dealing with the outbreak has been delegated to local district governments. This means the rules and their application are very mixed.

They did start self-isolation, social distancing fairly early in the piece, but there is practically zero capacity to deal with any severe cases. I'm in my 5th week of working from home.

The stats from the official government source look rather strange. Testing is generally not available. The numbers are relatively small, for now, but the shape of the graph for new cases is very worrying considering, in theory, action has already been taken.

http://covid19.bnpb.go.id

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Also, it is worrying that of those positive cases, more have died (meninggal) than have recovered (sembuh). This could be for a variety of reasons. It could be that they're only testing critical cases or that the lack of ICU facilities means that anyone who becomes really ill will die.

The big challenge will be next month when, traditionally, people travel back to their home town / village for the end of Ramadan (Mudik). Politically, it will be very difficult to prevent this, but it could be just at the worst time for spread of the virus.

The curve needs to be made extremely flat here, but how long can the current lock-down situation be sustained?

I was watching Indonesian TV today and it was all about coronavirus.. they were also talking quite a lot about Pembatasan Sosial Berskala Besar (PSBB).

I have my doubts about the effectiveness. The article below even refers to home schooling using “media yang efektif”. Might work for a minority.... 

https://bisnis.tempo.co/read/1329003/pembatasan-sosial-berskala-besar-berlaku-di-jakarta-ini-artinya

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9 minutes ago, Copa said:

I was watching Indonesian TV today and it was all about coronavirus.. they were also talking quite a lot about Pembatasan Sosial Berskala Besar (PSBB).

I have my doubts about the effectiveness. The article below even refers to home schooling using “media yang efektif”. Might work for a minority.... 

https://bisnis.tempo.co/read/1329003/pembatasan-sosial-berskala-besar-berlaku-di-jakarta-ini-artinya

It seems everything is organised at kabupaten level so I can see massive differences in application. Somewhere like Makassar is impossible to police and control. 

Most things are for show, the reality could get nasty. 

The problem we have up here is with illegal workers sneaking back into the country from Malaysia etc.

I think they've set up school lessons for all levels on TVRI.

Not seen any as I no longer have a TV. 

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23 hours ago, Damien said:

Its interesting to hear from Liz Kendall regarding the fact that around half of Coronavirus deaths in Ireland are from deaths in Care Homes and how other countries include all Coronavirus deaths in totals. At present these deaths aren't counted in the UK Coronavirus death figures and we only count hospital deaths. This obviously distorts our figures somewhat.

Interesting thread on why the coronavirus death rate in Ireland is less than half that of the UK.

https://mobile.twitter.com/laineydoyle/status/1249127908876128259

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11 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

spent a lot of the weekend running round in the work van getting shopping and medicine for elderly associates, got pulled over and fined for having a brake light out -  DO NOT EVEN SPEAK TO ME FOR 3 YEARS- SO MAD!

Normally you'd get a warning and told to replace at asap, unless you came across as a bit of a Richard...

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24 minutes ago, JonM said:

Interesting thread on why the coronavirus death rate in Ireland is less than half that of the UK.

https://mobile.twitter.com/laineydoyle/status/1249127908876128259

Ireland did certainly start many of the measures much sooner than the UK and the message from Leo Varadkar was very clear. I watch and read quite a bit of Irish news and the difference was stark. Schools closed the week before St Patricks Day and St Patrick's day parades were starting to be cancelled from around 9th March, in both North and South, whilst Cheltenham and Super League was still being played. I also distinctly remember the weekend before St Patricks day when widespread images of pubs being packed in Dublin led to an immediate shutdown and drastic action as advice wasn't being followed. It was over a week before the UK followed with similar measures.

I actually distinctly remember watching this speech on RTE on 12th March and for the first time the seriousness of it all really hit me:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-full-text-of-leo-varadkar-s-speech-1.4201041

3 days later was when much stricter restrictions came into play when the pubs etc were closed down.

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The BBC thinks we've got BEARS to deal with now as well:

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"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/who-officials-say-its-unclear-whether-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-to-second-infection.html

World Health Organization officials warned nations across the globe against lifting government lockdowns to contain the Covid-19 outbreak too soon, saying that the coronavirus spreads fast and is 10 times deadlier than the 2009 flu pandemic.

“While Covid-19 accelerates very fast, it decelerates much more slowly. In other words, the way down is much slower than the way up,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a press conference at the organization’s Geneva headquarters on Monday. “That means control measures must be lifted slowly and with control. It cannot happen all at once.”

“Control measures can only be lifted if the right public health measures are in place, including significant capacity for contact tracing,” Tedros said. 

WHO was asked about using hydroxychloroquine, which is being tested in New York state and has been touted by Trump as a “game-changer” in treating Covid-19 even though the drug has not been put through a rigorous clinical trial.

WHO officials said they are “eagerly” awaiting results from randomized controlled trials seeing whether hydroxychloroquine is effective in fighting the coronavirus, adding that there is currently no evidence it works.

“There is no empirical evidence,” said Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s emergencies program. “There is no evidence from randomized control trials that it works, and clinicians have also been cautioned to look out for side effects of the drug to ensure that we do no harm.”

Ryan also said it appears not all people who recover from the coronavirus have the antibodies to fight a second infection, raising questions as to whether or not patients develop immunity after surviving Covid-19.*

“With regards to recovery and then re-infection, I believe we do not have the answers to that. That is an unknown,” Ryan said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/who-officials-say-its-unclear-whether-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-to-second-infection.html 

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9 minutes ago, ckn said:

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I think so, yes. remember the best case being 20,000? That may have been a maximum if we'd gone early and gone tough. All the handshaking, Cheltenham going, dithering, herd immunising policies have done is to at least double that number.

"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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From BBC Latest news:

Covid-19 '10 times deadlier than 2009 flu pandemic'

The disease caused by the new coronavirus is 10 times deadlier than the swine flu pandemic of 2009, the head of the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said new data from around the world was "giving us a clearer picture about this virus, how it behaves, how to stop it and how to treat it".

"We know that COVID-19 spreads fast, and we know that it is deadly – 10 times deadlier than the 2009 flu pandemic," Dr Tedros said at a briefing in Geneva on Monday.

The 2009 swine flu pandemic, involving the H1N1 influenza virus, is estimated to have killed around 200,000 people around the world.

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10 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

How do you know they would "rather do that"?

How much time and resources is spent on internet policing compared with detection hours in CID? Just to back up your argument...

The local CID are chocka block with work. They would much sooner have more resources to do more.

 

local copper was walking his dog (off duty) past our house and wife had a chat with him (from 6'+ away), she said "at least all the petty crime has likely calmed down" - he said "no worse than ever, burglary's from business premises and vehicles are through the roof, addicts are struggling to get gear, price has gone up and so they are breaking into all and anything to get the money for a fix - and this is in affluent Thames Valley. They are run ragged with all thw workload at present whilst obviously some of them are off sick/self isolating

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1 hour ago, ckn said:

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That isn't the understanding I got from the press conference today (and I have just listened to it a second time on I-Player to make sure).  Vallance explained that the deaths will continue to rise but admissions to hospital appear now to be in the plateau phase in all but two areas (and those rises are small).  Deaths will be a couple of weeks behind.

The admissions chart showed a distinct flattening off of hospital admissions, in almost all areas, the south of England and east of England being the exceptions.  But where the north west and north east/Yorkshire have also been exceptions, they are flattening off now too.  If that flattening off is maintained, which is what the Vallance said he is hoping, then we are now actually IN the peak.  The original forecast for hitting the peak was around Easter time.  It was also said that the plateau could go on for a little while as has happened elsewhere with a reduction in numbers at all stages being slower than the increase (something that has been reinforced by the WHO today).

 

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23 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

how many autopsies do you think are being carried out lately?

There is a really, really good virologist who answers questions on the BBC programme which includes the daily press conference.  He addressed the issue of deaths with covid and because of covid in answer to a question today.  He is well worth listening to (it's on I-Player) as he is really good at communicating the facts.  

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I just put a great post on- just to cheer everyone up at this difficult time- its been removed by pathetic bedwetters- that's me done here- thanks for the times- but goodbye 

they come swinging round that corner, they think they're benny goodman

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5 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

I just put a great post on- just to cheer everyone up at this difficult time- its been removed by pathetic bedwetters- that's me done here- thanks for the times- but goodbye 

I removed it, it was reported because it contained foul language. I felt it didn't deserve a moderating post as you should have known better.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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1 minute ago, ckn said:

I removed it, it was reported because it contained foul language. I felt it didn't deserve a moderating post as you should have known better.

I think that was an exception and would have brought wry smiles, theres a time and a place for everything even a bit of swearing- lets not stress each other to death- please no- its just silly fun

they come swinging round that corner, they think they're benny goodman

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37 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

I think that was an exception and would have brought wry smiles, theres a time and a place for everything even a bit of swearing- lets not stress each other to death- please no- its just silly fun

Still here?

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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3 hours ago, Damien said:

From BBC Latest news:

"We know that COVID-19 spreads fast, and we know that it is deadly – 10 times deadlier than the 2009 flu pandemic," Dr Tedros said at a briefing in Geneva on Monday.

The 2009 swine flu pandemic, involving the H1N1 influenza virus, is estimated to have killed around 200,000 people around the world.

Absolute garbage reportage. If Covid19 is ten times deadlier than the 2009 swine flu pandemic, we can expect a worldwide 2 million people to die. It won't happen.

Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police

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16 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

Absolute garbage reportage. If Covid19 is ten times deadlier than the 2009 swine flu pandemic, we can expect a worldwide 2 million people to die. It won't happen.

It might not happen but only because of what’s been put in place. If we treated like the flu we’d be well past 2m dead. 

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1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:

I think that was an exception and would have brought wry smiles, theres a time and a place for everything even a bit of swearing- lets not stress each other to death- please no- its just silly fun

I have had some bad language posts removed recently , I fully believed I was right in posting them and using the language I used , ckn was perfectly right to remove them , those are the rules 

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