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I was a bit reassured to hear that PHE thinks the reason for the outbreak at Weston Hospital was actually the staff accommodation.  Reassured because that suggests that maybe lots of people on beaches over the last four weeks hasn't had a local impact.  However, a number of the nursing staff who tested positive (but were asymptomatic) also visit nursing homes and people in the wider community which could be a problem.

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The district where I live has a total population of 450k, but as yet there have been only 3 confirmed positive cases, all of whom have recovered. One of those three is the person on the right in this poster (deputy head of district).

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Unfortunately, everyone here seems to be getting more complacent and things are getting back to normal, although schools are still closed.

 

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13 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said:

The district where I live has a total population of 450k, but as yet there have been only 3 confirmed positive cases, all of whom have recovered. One of those three is the person on the right in this poster (deputy head of district).

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Unfortunately, everyone here seems to be getting more complacent and things are getting back to normal, although schools are still closed.

 

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7 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

agbrigg?

Unfortunately, the figures for Wakefield District are a little further down the line.

There are 745 confirmed cases in Wakefield, out of a local population of 348,312

In Wakefield there were 250 coronavirus-related deaths up to the 15 May. In this area 23% of all deaths involved coronavirus between 29 Feb and 15 May

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4 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said:

Unfortunately, the figures for Wakefield District are a little further down the line.

There are 745 confirmed cases in Wakefield, out of a local population of 348,312

In Wakefield there were 250 coronavirus-related deaths up to the 15 May. In this area 23% of all deaths involved coronavirus between 29 Feb and 15 May

The confirmed cases must look very dubious then. That there have been roughly 25,000 cases (largely undetected) is also a reasonable guess/estimate, i.e. about 7% of the population.


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1 hour ago, Bob8 said:

The confirmed cases must look very dubious then. That there have been roughly 25,000 cases (largely undetected) is also a reasonable guess/estimate, i.e. about 7% of the population.

Got that from the BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

but the disparity may be that the confirmed cases were only those with positive tests. The deaths included all that mentioned covid on the death certificate. 

Suggests there's been next to no actual testing. 

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1 hour ago, Wholly Trinity said:

Got that from the BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274

but the disparity may be that the confirmed cases were only those with positive tests. The deaths included all that mentioned covid on the death certificate. 

Suggests there's been next to no actual testing. 

Seems I know/knew nearly 0.5% of the confirmed cases - 1 died (think he was the first death in the area, definitely in my town), 1 spent several weeks in ICU (currently still suffering greatly from the effects) and 1 (wife of ICU patient) seemingly fully recovered after only mild symptoms. All 3 have plots on my allotment site, but probably just a coincidence as they weren't on much more than nodding terms after an incident with a chicken...….

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On 28/05/2020 at 21:42, silverback said:

Jack daniels works a treat for toothache, i broke a big back tooth 3 weeks ago and it were sharp, so after a few minutes with the dremmle it was sorted,gave me a massive headache but smoothed the jagged bits down.? wife wernt too suited.

Once, when I had toothache, I took the advice of a friend and it worked well.  It was to soak a dried clove in whisky and then just manoeuvre it with your tongue to be against the point of pain as much as possible.  By all means go for the simpler option of drinking lots of whisky (or, if you must, whiskey), but this allows you the chance to stay sober and thus do something else too!

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2 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

Once, when I had toothache, I took the advice of a friend and it worked well.  It was to soak a dried clove in whisky and then just manoeuvre it with your tongue to be against the point of pain as much as possible.  By all means go for the simpler option of drinking lots of whisky (or, if you must, whiskey), but this allows you the chance to stay sober and thus do something else too!

Or you can just buy some clove oil. Watch the movie 'Marathon Man' for tips on usage.


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1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

Or you can just buy some clove oil. Watch the movie 'Marathon Man' for tips on usage.

Good point, Futtocks, but I suspect our shelves at home wouldn't normally contain clove oil, whereas they would include dried cloves and whisky...for culinary purposes, you understand! (eg the latter to make cranachan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cranachan )

Well, OK, and an occasional bedtime dram.  Slainte mhath!

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2 hours ago, Futtocks said:

Or you can just buy some clove oil. Watch the movie 'Marathon Man' for tips on usage.

Is it safe?

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19 minutes ago, Shadow said:

Is it safe?

It's OK, Shadow.  Medical advice is that watching movies is usually safe.

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"Men will be proud to say 'I am a European'. We hope to see a day when men of every country will think as much of being a European as of being from their native land." (Winston Churchill)

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12 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said:

It's OK, Shadow.  Medical advice is that watching movies is usually safe.

Some of the ones Mrs Shadow chooses reduce my will to live, they mainly seem to consist of Sandra Bullock realising the guy she’s been arguing with is the one she’ll end up with. Sometimes it’s Meg Ryan or Jennifer Lopez, sometimes it’s Keanu Reeves or Matthew McConnaghie  arguing with a girl but the outcome is always the same.

she may  feel the same way about Jason Statham’s body of work 

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14 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said:

Unfortunately, the figures for Wakefield District are a little further down the line.

There are 745 confirmed cases in Wakefield, out of a local population of 348,312

In Wakefield there were 250 coronavirus-related deaths up to the 15 May. In this area 23% of all deaths involved coronavirus between 29 Feb and 15 May

Where I live we haven't had a positive test recorded now for four days.  We have a drive through testing centre based here as well as the hospital of course and we have had a mobile testing thingy go through the area a couple of times so I would imagine quite a few people have been able to get a test locally.  However, there will always be the asymptomatic cases and those who don't get a test for whatever reason.  Our deaths have fallen to 0-1 each day.  We went three days without any recorded deaths last week.  There is no record of hospital admissions and so I have no idea where that is up to but here in St Helens we appear to be in a relatively good position now.  We have recorded almost 200 deaths during the pandemic so far.  Our population is around 180,000.

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5 hours ago, Moose said:

You can’t leave like that Les!!

What happened to the chicken....

The chicken was unarmed and lived happily ever after - at least till it stopped laying....

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35 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

The chicken was unarmed and lived happily ever after - at least till it stopped laying....

Did it at any point cross the road?

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1 minute ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

It doing so was the cause the incident.  

You’ve said enough. Spare me the horrendous detail, I’m quite squeamish these days.

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7 hours ago, Saintslass said:

Where I live we haven't had a positive test recorded now for four days.  We have a drive through testing centre based here as well as the hospital of course and we have had a mobile testing thingy go through the area a couple of times so I would imagine quite a few people have been able to get a test locally.  However, there will always be the asymptomatic cases and those who don't get a test for whatever reason.  Our deaths have fallen to 0-1 each day.  We went three days without any recorded deaths last week.  There is no record of hospital admissions and so I have no idea where that is up to but here in St Helens we appear to be in a relatively good position now.  We have recorded almost 200 deaths during the pandemic so far.  Our population is around 180,000.

I don't know the current situation in Wakefield as I don't live there atm. As the number of cases has gone down and the testing has gone up, it's likely that the testing regime is more adequate now.

The point on the testing was not really to do with the current situation, rather the historical/overall record. 250 deaths (to 15th May) from only 745 confirmed/tested cases is a 33.6% case mortality rate. This suggests that they were only testing a tiny fraction of those with the virus. There's no way a third of all symptomatic cases were dying.

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