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As the issue around face masks develops this appeared on youtube, be warned, some bad language!

The message there is pretty clear I wou;ld venture!

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I am SOOOOOO angry at Aston Villa, in the middle of a coronavirus, semi lock-down, they have announced the signing of a major female player for their first team, and the photo on the website shows manager and player, less than 1 meter from each other. Is the 2 meter rule not applicable to female sportspeople then?


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Quite a big area.

 


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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3 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Quite a big area.

 

Could make a difficult Eid celebration for those planning to celebrate tomorrow. 


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Is it not the case that gloves can prevent the entry of the virus inyo thr body through broken skin on the hand? Were we not told that you only caught it if it entered you body rather than just resting on it.  Instruction were not to rub your eyes,  etc etc.

 

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5 hours ago, JohnM said:

Is it not the case that gloves can prevent the entry of the virus inyo thr body through broken skin on the hand? Were we not told that you only caught it if it entered you body rather than just resting on it.  Instruction were not to rub your eyes,  etc etc.

On a broader issue of this thread, how is the constant carping about each and every action the Government takes not politically motivated.  This thread started on a positive note many pages ago,  sharing ecperinces, knowledge and facts.  That seem to me to be no longer the case. Now it mainly "what the Government says or does it wrong, too late or for the wrong reasons.Strike out which does not apply. 

I agree entirely. I'll just start deleting posts from now rather than moving them. It's not exactly a new request.


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5 hours ago, JohnM said:

Is it not the case that gloves can prevent the entry of the virus inyo thr body through broken skin on the hand? Were we not told that you only caught it if it entered you body rather than just resting on it.  Instruction were not to rub your eyes,  etc etc.

On a broader issue of this thread, how is the constant carping about each and every action the Government takes not politically motivated.  This thread started on a positive note many pages ago,  sharing ecperinces, knowledge and facts.  That seem to me to be no longer the case. Now it mainly "what the Government says or does it wrong, too late or for the wrong reasons.Strike out which does not apply. 

The problem is that gloves give a false sense of security. People put them on and then act as if they're protected when in reality they're doing nothing but putting on a separate layer. That then will see extra spreading through the false sense of security. If you know how to use them in a proper infection control method then you're fine, if not you're probably just helping spread it.


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1 hour ago, ckn said:

The problem is that gloves give a false sense of security. People put them on and then act as if they're protected when in reality they're doing nothing but putting on a separate layer. That then will see extra spreading through the false sense of security. If you know how to use them in a proper infection control method then you're fine, if not you're probably just helping spread it.

I know a young girl at my boxing club, an international fashion model until a few years ago and in her mid-twenties. Almost the least likely adult to be badly affected. Her Mum is a nurse, but had been careful with her PPE, so was not worried about getting infected and spreading it.

Apparently, after a few days, this woman thought she was going to die. Full recovery since, but there is a genuine (as well as a nonsense) debate about the effect.

Personally, I think introducing mask would be effective, in part as it would send the message that this is serious.


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42 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

I know a young international fashion model in her mid-twenties

That's what you wanted to tell us all wasn't it.

Is your much younger scandinavian wife OK with this "friendship"?

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3 minutes ago, ckn said:

 

Here's the document that that pic came from.

The most interesting is p7, Figure 10 and p8, Figure 11. Figure 11 shows that localised lockdowns do work. Awful timing, but very necessary.

And no, you can't have a grumble about the government on that, if you want to do that then you can go post on Politics.


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4 minutes ago, ckn said:

Here's the document that that pic came from.

The most interesting is p7, Figure 10 and p8, Figure 11. Figure 11 shows that localised lockdowns do work. Awful timing, but very necessary.

And no, you can't have a grumble about the government on that, if you want to do that then you can go post on Politics.

Am I allowed to point out that the table is unreliable because it's been sorted by the YES/NO at the end to give the impression to a casual reader that it's the areas with the highest infection rates that have been put under intervention?


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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

Am I allowed to point out that the table is unreliable because it's been sorted by the YES/NO at the end to give the impression to a casual reader that it's the areas with the highest infection rates that have been put under intervention?

There's a very complex process behind this that I'm actually very supportive of and it makes sense. For example, a very intensively urban area with a minor but significant infection rate is a far higher risk than a rural area that has a higher rate. We'd expect the latter to burn out far quicker but the former could run away quickly if not managed.

An example, pre-COVID London, people will tolerate sardine-like public transport and personal space is non-existent, but rural folk get all nervous and sweaty if you get within 2m of them.

That's why the Cumbria issue is less of an immediate problem than Bradford or Manchester.

Personally, I'd have taken a harder stance, but then I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, and they've clearly learned their lessons from Leicester that they can't wait until a peak before intervening.

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Eden Valley on that list . My brother lives there and he’s been saying the lakes are rammed . People lighting barbecues by the lake , rubbish and waste getting thrown all over the place ( all sorts if you get my meaning ... )

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5 minutes ago, ckn said:

There's a very complex process behind this that I'm actually very supportive of and it makes sense. For example, a very intensively urban area with a minor but significant infection rate is a far higher risk than a rural area that has a higher rate. We'd expect the latter to burn out far quicker but the former could run away quickly if not managed.

An example, pre-COVID London, people will tolerate sardine-like public transport and personal space is non-existent, but rural folk get all nervous and sweaty if you get within 2m of them.

That's why the Cumbria issue is less of an immediate problem than Bradford or Manchester.

Personally, I'd have taken a harder stance, but then I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, and they've clearly learned their lessons from Leicester that they can't wait until a peak before intervening.

I'm not opposing the need for local lockdowns nor this specific one. But my further opinions will need to go elsewhere.

Everything is rammed down here today and I noted Eastbourne on an earlier list. Not that confident we'll be okay for too long here.

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Just a hint for people, try not to get so trollied that you end up in A&E during a global pandemic. Page 11 of this weekly emergency care report shows we're about 25% higher than this time last year. Stupid people.

Easily not a political point, it's individual stupidity through personal choice.

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2 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I'm not opposing the need for local lockdowns nor this specific one. But my further opinions will need to go elsewhere.

Everything is rammed down here today and I noted Eastbourne on an earlier list. Not that confident we'll be okay for too long here.

Thank you. We can keep solid informational and discussion things here but grumbling about the politics behind it can go behind closed doors.


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On 26/07/2020 at 22:23, ckn said:

COVID deaths in Spain in the last 5 days = 12

Deaths in England in the last 5 days = 426 

I’m not making any political point, just highlighting our national idiocy in pointing fingers at other nations. 

I agree but wish we would be clear about comparisons. That is explain how each is compiling and publishing so we know its apples for apples.  That is confirm the way data is collected, complied and published.

We know for example PHS (as in scotland) do it different than PHE.

Otherwise I take it as just politicising, even if not intended. 

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On 28/07/2020 at 06:38, shaun mc said:

In Spain, the Balearics and Canaries are about a 90th of the Aragon & Catalunya regions (according to the BBC last night). If you include the islands on an average rate then you'd have to include a lot of other European countries, where there are rises in average infections

And the other way - it would be no surprise if UK visitors were barred from many countries given our continuing infection rates

I would agree to an extent.

First instinct should be to stop, and as Spanish government provide updated information then you relax certain area's.

I have no doubt the islands will be removed off the quarantines list.

You also have to trust whatever information based upon how surveillance is being done.  I generally trust ours now we have increased testing and ONS do their weekly surveillance.

I don't know if other countries are doing the ongoing surveillance better or not as good as say ONS and the amount of testing we are doing now.

I guess you have to trust the data from other countries, and that may well be better but I guess any expert advise to ministers will have to take account of that. I mean given how important holiday industry is to Spain I would always have my doubts.... same as we have doubts here if we think government is putting economy ahead of health as many like to accuse.

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1- the lockdown was never done properly from day one

2- certain communities and groups have not followed rules and just done what they like from day one

3- now we will have to pay again for the ineptness of the govt and the selfishness of people who cant do whats required because they think it doesnt apply to them from day one

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2 hours ago, ckn said:

Here's the document that that pic came from.

The most interesting is p7, Figure 10 and p8, Figure 11. Figure 11 shows that localised lockdowns do work. Awful timing, but very necessary.

And no, you can't have a grumble about the government on that, if you want to do that then you can go post on Politics.

If only ? 😂

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2 hours ago, ckn said:

Here's the document that that pic came from.

The most interesting is p7, Figure 10 and p8, Figure 11. Figure 11 shows that localised lockdowns do work. Awful timing, but very necessary.

And no, you can't have a grumble about the government on that, if you want to do that then you can go post on Politics.

Is there something wrong with that link or at my end. It just sends me to the start of this thread 😳

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