ELBOWSEYE Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: Toronto obviously didn't appeal to the part time supporters. Warrington have made it their amateur club day with junior getting in for a pound, last season game against london got over 12k so clubs can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, Scubby said: Repeat games creates lethargy. Feasibly there could be 6 Wigan-Saints derbies this year. You can’t account for cup games or play-off games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Cool Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Maybe some of it's financial? When i went up for the wcc last year i was taken aback by the interest in the sport and pride in the club in the town (every pub i went in had pictures of Wigan RL teams and players and quotes on the walls). A few people i spoke to in the pubs seemed hugely passionate but weren't going to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: You can’t account for cup games or play-off games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Damien said: Many of the football fans hold a lot of jealousy towards the Rugby club. It’s a shame if people in the town support Wigan or Athletic but not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Scubby said: When was the last time we played each other six times in a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: When was the last time we played each other six times in a year? If Saints finish 1st and Wigan 2nd it is feasible they could play each other 5 times in SL alone. Also if they finish 2nd and 3rd it is also feasible - given the top 5 system. Given that they are both entering the Challenge Cup at the last 16 stage, the odds of meeting in the Challenge Cup is also higher than when it was at the top 32 stage. What is unfeasible about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Scubby said: If Saints finish 1st and Wigan 2nd it is feasible they could play each other 5 times in SL alone. Also if they finish 2nd and 3rd it is also feasible - given the top 5 system. Given that they are both entering the Challenge Cup at the last 16 stage, the odds of meeting in the Challenge Cup is also higher than when it was at the top 32 stage. What is unfeasible about that? If your Mum had balls etc. Doubt we’ve ever played competitive games against Wigan six times in one calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: If your Mum had balls etc. Doubt we’ve ever played competitive games against Wigan six times in one calendar year. 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert1 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Wigan and Leeds success cant be a reason for the decline in crowds. Also the DW is a good modern stadium. Has anyone done a large study and actually asked people? That would seem the logical place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: That’s a given and granted Wigan don’t pick the TV games but when clubs play Catalans and now Toronto at home, why don’t they do more to entice people in? Can you give us an insight into how they do get more people in for these games. Your marketing knowledge will be an invaluable resource for all clubs not just Wigan. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Padge said: Can you give us an insight into how they do get more people in for these games. Your marketing knowledge will be an invaluable resource for all clubs not just Wigan. I get what you mean, but Wigan have managed to get 17k+ for the likes of London in the past. That kind of pro-active marketing seems to have disappeared at Wigan which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Scubby said: I get what you mean, but Wigan have managed to get 17k+ for the likes of London in the past. That kind of pro-active marketing seems to have disappeared at Wigan which is a shame. Maybe the cost of the marketing outweighed the profit. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Padge said: Maybe the cost of the marketing outweighed the profit. Quite possibly. Depends what you want from the sport. Wigan used to be in the top 2-3 supported rugby clubs in the country. Now they are struggling to stay in the top 10 - which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I believe in less than five years wigan will be playing in their own ground robin park in front of a sold out crowd of around 12000 the DW is a waste of space and a money pit for wigan. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, my missus said: I believe in less than five years wigan will be playing in their own ground robin park in front of a sold out crowd of around 12000 the DW is a waste of space and a money pit for wigan. History often shows that when a club downsizes often crowds go down too. Be careful what you wish for. Leeds couldn't fill Headingley when the capacity was cut in half due to renovations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Scubby said: History often shows that when a club downsizes often crowds go down too. Be careful what you wish for. Leeds couldn't fill Headingley when the capacity was cut in half due to renovations. Personally I’d rather watch my team in a full and rocking 12k ground than the same crowd rattling around in a 25k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 as wigan renovate the complex more of the revenue that is lost every week at the DW is being plowed back into the club a couple of small stands and wigan will be making money again instead of making money for the tics. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Padge said: Can you give us an insight into how they do get more people in for these games. Your marketing knowledge will be an invaluable resource for all clubs not just Wigan. There’s plenty clubs could do, but seemingly, don’t do, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: Personally I’d rather watch my team in a full and rocking 12k ground than the same crowd rattling around in a 25k. Wigan used to play in front of 5,000 in a stadium that had a crowd of 47,747 in it once. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: Personally I’d rather watch my team in a full and rocking 12k ground than the same crowd rattling around in a 25k. That is sad to hear when the club has had so many 20k+ crowds in the last 10-20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: There’s plenty clubs could do, but seemingly, don’t do, for whatever reason. If marketing a game was so bloody easy then every stadium would be full every week. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 by the way which club had the most fans through the turnstiles which club had the biggest attendance of the year wigans average dipped because of some very low playoff turnouts and playing saints away rather than at home. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Scubby said: History often shows that when a club downsizes often crowds go down too. Be careful what you wish for. Leeds couldn't fill Headingley when the capacity was cut in half due to renovations. We should have moved wholesale to Elland Road for a season, or at least 60% of our games there. Too many people got out of the habit of going to games - juxtaposed with the downturn in fortunes and the club seeming to focus entirely on the stadium build and maybe taking their eyes off the ball in other areas did not help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: There’s plenty clubs could do, but seemingly, don’t do, for whatever reason. Give us a few of the 'plenty.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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