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3 hours ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

Taking back power from the back door.... isn't that called "Greek Style"-

I thought it was going to be a Porno thread ?

Talent is secondary to whether players are confident.

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3 hours ago, del capo said:

It's all entertaining stuff when there's no up to date rugby to watch.

RFL doing a lot more support work since they were released from the problems of SL., especially on line and digitally direct to the community clubs. Recent one' s being  to help source Government and Local Authority funding caused by the coronavirus close down.

As for  Richard Cramer  he is the head of Front Row Legal. He knows a bit about TGG. and presumably works in circles where you'd love to be a fly on the wall. He was the go to and successful lawyer for Maurice Oldroyd when Barla sacked him  , for the NCL when a club took them to the High Court in Leeds and more recently looked after the interests of top whisler Ben Thaler......

If Cramer could write a book it would be the biggest RL blockbuster ever.

Things he's been involved in:

Various parts of the Bradford Bulls sagas

Keighley not being allowed into Super League

Oldroyd

Tricky Trindall vs St Helens

Ellery Hanley vs St Helens

Ian Millward vs St Helens

Francis Cummins' sacking by Bradford

Leeds termination of Karl Pratt

Kevin Locke's exit at Salford

Cas vs Sale for Solomona

David Furner's sacking by Leeds

Keith Mason vs Huddersfield (the 'the butt photo' saga)

Ryan Hudson vs Bradford

Thaler's suspension

Greg McCallum's sudden disappearance from the RFL

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13 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Worth a bag of balls and a bottle of Piat D’Or, non?

Besides, weren't Catalans on the verge of being on a renowned free to air network  before crisis struck...?

The real value for the UK SL was it gave Sky an extra game with no production costs. Even if there wasn't any income from it it was valuable for that reason. Same with the Toronto games which were at a useful time to be beamed into the UK. Taking Toronto's Sky money was foolish for this reason alone.

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1 hour ago, scotchy1 said:

So it should be an entirely one way thing, money goes from the SL clubs to the wider game but definitely not the other way around?

What are the RFL and wider game going to do if SL falls over and the 5m that goes to the lower leagues each year and the millions that go from SL to the RFL disappear?

I don't think it has to be all or nothing.

The point that I was making was that it wouldn't really be fair for the RFL to get a large government handout by emphasising the significant role played by Rugby League across the whole span of Northern working class towns at all levels - only for all of that money then to be siphoned off by the SL clubs.

There needs to be some 'sharing' here. I know it goes against the grain for some SL chairman, but I fear they are going to have to bite the bullet if Rimmer is the one who 'does the deal'. That's essentially what the article is saying.

 

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14 minutes ago, paulwalker71 said:

I don't think it has to be all or nothing.

The point that I was making was that it wouldn't really be fair for the RFL to get a large government handout by emphasising the significant role played by Rugby League across the whole span of Northern working class towns at all levels - only for all of that money then to be siphoned off by the SL clubs.

There needs to be some 'sharing' here. I know it goes against the grain for some SL chairman, but I fear they are going to have to bite the bullet if Rimmer is the one who 'does the deal'. That's essentially what the article is saying.

 

You would hope ATM that the players ( all of them ) are being accomodated in the government furlough scheme , getting the £2,500.00 per month until we finally start to see an end to things ? ?

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Just now, scotchy1 said:

It's a bit of a false economy though. What's the point in the lower leagues arguing over a couple of million now and losing 5m a year for the next 5 years? 

Will it be 5 m ? , 

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2 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

It's a bit of a false economy though. What's the point in the lower leagues arguing over a couple of million now and losing 5m a year for the next 5 years? 

That's based on as assumption that the lower leagues will get anything from the next TV contract, which most people don't seem to be expecting

If Rimmer has any sense (yeah... I know) he'll be factoring that into the way that any Government money is broken down - in other words, plenty of dosh for the SL clubs now on the understanding that the lower league clubs get a decent chunk of the next TV deal.

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Just now, paulwalker71 said:

Well, right now the priority is to get to 2022....

Pretty much what my reply was going to be , at this moment ' all bets are off ' things could be different in the future 

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The wonderful RL outcome could be the two organisations squabbling like cats over the money before any decision is made followed by the government department deciding to grant no funds whatsoever, then being accused of "betraying the community game".

I don't suppose that would ever happen, though.

Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change.

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7 hours ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

Taking back power from the back door.... isn't that called "Greek Style"-

Glad someone else's sense of humour is as low brow as mine.

Rimmer takes back door route...

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On 29/03/2020 at 20:19, Toby Chopra said:

It's Superleague and the Championship where potentially millions of pounds of revenue - which pays hundreds of peoples wages - has been shut off. So if the bailout is intended to make up for lost revenue, that's where the lost revenue is. Where else would it go? 

Those clubs are already benefitting from support such as business rate relief, VAT holidays and the employee furlough scheme. The government is not going to simply write a blank cheque to Super League clubs to replace lost cash-flow - it's up to the clubs to work out how they do that. If anything, this situation exposes the folly of the zero-growth thinking that has been a part of this game for two decades. 

The amateur game doesn't have the same levers to pull to replace that cashflow - it relies almost entirely community interaction, which is severely curtailed for the forseeable. Super League clubs, on the other hand, have resources on the payroll in areas such as marketing, digital, ecommerce and commercial to generate cashflow away from matchdays. 

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16 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Majority of the money will end up with Super League players, whoever ends up with it. 

Fixed your typo.

Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change.

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