Toby Chopra Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 quarters with two more 'end of period' hooters would be too much of a change in my view. As others have said, knowing the game will come to a full stop changes the play. But as McDermott himself mentions in the article, there is precedent for slightly longer in-play stoppages roughly midway through halves, at appropriate moments. NRL did this in Olympic year if I remember rightly for water breaks, as more games were played in the full heat of the Aussie summer. I could live with a 120 second break after a dead ball situation once a half, IF it could be shown there was a clear commercial benefit to it that keeps clubs healthy. But 60 minute games I'm not comfortable with. In my view that changes the nature of the game profoundly. If we need to play out the full schedule, just extend the season for as long as necessary, into 2021 if we have to. We can jiggle around the seasons for the next 3 years to catch up if we have to, only the World Cup is probably set in stone, and even that may be able to be pushed back slightly. Some of the football venues might need that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeHearts Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 20 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: The NRL trialed quarters in their pre-season games (though still at 80mins duration) and to be honest they were pretty enjoyable to watch. The intensity was sustained throughout as players knew they only had to go full on in 20min bursts. Personally i'd be quite happy to see the game switch to 4 - 20minute quarters with breaks of 5mins, 10mins and then 5mins. Not sure i'd like to see the games drop to just 60mins though 4 x 15 minutes but the clock stops any time the ball is out of play eg in touch/kicks at goal/as soon as a try is scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 22 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: 9’s is still Rugby League. "Plastic Rugby League" 9's as with 7's is a completely different game to the 13 a side proper game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 20 hours ago, Rupert Prince said: Playing 60 minutes as opposed to 80 still stays the same as rugby league. And in the extenuating circumstances it might help safety of players IF we play 2 games a week. Even if we have 80 minutes, long time then quarters might help us make money if the TV companies make more money out of adverts. What will help the safety of the player's, is dropping the interchange ruling to 3, gone would be the day's of the 10 minute behomoths, they would be replaced by forwards still big lads but capable of sustaining longer minute's on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Does no one on here get it, McDermott's suggestion is the best possible chance if proceedings happen to be reinstated of his team avoiding relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Eddie said: Because there are a different number of players and different rules to rugby league. It’s no more rugby league than Union is. 21 hours ago, Eddie said: No it isn’t. 18 hours ago, Eddie said: Which rules of 9s make it League whereas that difference in rule makes 7s Union? I’m not saying you’re wrong btw, I don’t watch 9s, 7s or other than very occasionally Union so don’t know the rules. 17 hours ago, Eddie said: So other than line outs how is that different to 9s? I wish I had your strength of conviction. Being able to come on public forums and making sweeping statements with zero supporting evidence whatsoever. In some ways it's an admirable quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: "Plastic Rugby League" 9's as with 7's is a completely different game to the 13 a side proper game. So, even though it’s “plastic”, in your opinion, it’s still Rugby League, as you’ve stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: So, even though it’s “plastic”, in your opinion, it’s still Rugby League, as you’ve stated. Term it as you see fit Wiggy, but in my opinion it is just a 'novelty' game that when I was young was played as a 7's tournament by pro clubs to make a few bob through the gates, it was not taken seriously by hardly anyone, even the recent surge of the NRL and World Cup 9's did not entice either the paying public or TV audiences, why because apart from the shape of the pitch, ball and posts it has no resemblance whatsoever to the 13 a side game, quite honestly I don't get any pleasure at all from it and the evidence shows I am not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, scotchy1 said: And 13s today is different to 13s 30 years ago. Off course it is, but not all for the better young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, scotchy1 said: Not all for the worse either old timer. Have you ever played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: I wish I had your strength of conviction. Being able to come on public forums and making sweeping statements with zero supporting evidence whatsoever. In some ways it's an admirable quality... That’s what this forum is all about. However RLG if you’d bothered to read what I said I was asking the question, which hasn’t been answered anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: That’s what this forum is all about. However RLG if you’d bothered to read what I said I was asking the question, which hasn’t been answered anyway. I did read it, and you only asked the question after deciding on your standpoint, instead of asking the question first and then making an informed judgement. Why don't you ask questions to get information before making decisions? The major difference between league and union in any format is the PTB restart after a tackle. If you needed somebody to tell you that then I'm not sure what games you've been watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: Does no one on here get it, McDermott's suggestion is the best possible chance if proceedings happen to be reinstated of his team avoiding relegation. Wash your mouth out, Harold. Brian McDermott wouldn’t dream of proposing changes that seem designed purely to suit Toronto and not the wider game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Chopra Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, scotchy1 said: This season is a write off, it is exactly the time to be bold and try stuff. Not everything will work but we will never get this chance to try and fail again. I'd don't think we're quite there yet, but if we can't restart by July 1, then yes, I'd be up for trying out a few radical formats. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 couple of extra trips to bar,whats not to like if your at lamport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, silverback said: couple of extra trips to bar,whats not to like if your at lamport. Is that the only stadium with drinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJW Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Broncos v Warrington at Carcassonne was played in 4 x 20 minute quarters My wife complains I selfishly stop her fulfilling her true ambition - she really wants to be a rich widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Chopra Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, BJW said: Broncos v Warrington at Carcassonne was played in 4 x 20 minute quarters A league game or friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJW Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 League game IIRC, classed as an on the road game. Played in evening and around 80 + degrees at KO My wife complains I selfishly stop her fulfilling her true ambition - she really wants to be a rich widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 hours ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: I did read it, and you only asked the question after deciding on your standpoint, instead of asking the question first and then making an informed judgement. Why don't you ask questions to get information before making decisions? The major difference between league and union in any format is the PTB restart after a tackle. If you needed somebody to tell you that then I'm not sure what games you've been watching. What a deeply patronising individual you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, TheReaper said: Is that the only stadium with drinks? YES,but not with the setup they have and the choice of many craft ales stalls. always looks rather busy all game,were as over here its more a half time rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, BJW said: Broncos v Warrington at Carcassonne was played in 4 x 20 minute quarters Was it really 4 quarters with kick offs between each, or simply a water break around half way through each half at a natural break in play eg a scrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescolin Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Toby Chopra said: I'd don't think we're quite there yet, but if we can't restart by July 1, then yes, I'd be up for trying out a few radical formats. Why not? If we can start in July why not leave the game as it is and as I suggested on another thread have a season that goes back to the old days and have it continued through Winter ? We have had a months play so starting in July we would probably finish in January, early February.. Then start the new season in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIWIT Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Wash your mouth out, Harold. Brian McDermott wouldn’t dream of proposing changes that seem designed purely to suit Toronto and not the wider game. Are you arguing against the idea because you don't think it's feasible (and if so why) or just because McDermott proposed it (even though he says he's not proposing it just as a way of avoiding relegation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJW Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Was it really 4 quarters with kick offs between each, or simply a water break around half way through each half at a natural break in play eg a scrum? AFAIK it was 4 quarters rather than just water breaks. My wife complains I selfishly stop her fulfilling her true ambition - she really wants to be a rich widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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