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20 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

So why is it necessary then to have every other row empty and only a 1/4 of the stadium full if the risk is very low, and saying it will be the same but marginally higher than outside the stadium but we are still told to keep to the 2meter exclusion zone when ever we are near people from outside your own household.

Maybe you have missed the Grim bit out of your name and your after a few victim's.

They also said people probably can’t keep to the 2m distancing in shops and on public transport. That’s why the government is advising face coverings in these situations. That’s then up to us as individuals whether we stick rigidly to the social distancing or follow the guidance to reduce risks as we enter each of the reducing lockdown stages. 

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2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

So why is it necessary then to have every other row empty and only a 1/4 of the stadium full if the risk is very low, and saying it will be the same but marginally higher than outside the stadium but we are still told to keep to the 2meter exclusion zone when ever we are near people from outside your own household.

Because when you spend a lot of time (ie most of the match) the risks increase as the likelihood of transmission increase. More opportunity for droplets from you cheering to make their way to someone in front of you. Most the localized outbreaks that aren't care homes are places like meat packing plants, postal sorting facilities, greenhouses with lots of workers etc. where people are in close quarters and for extended periods of time. So for that extended period of sitting in you seat, the additional space may be required to minimize that.

But when you pass by someone - on the sidewalk, or heading to the pisser - the time exposure is very low, and that makes the risk very low. A strict, 100%-all-the-time 2m distance will not have an appreciably larger effect on reducing transmission than having a mask on and being quick. 

All that is my understanding of various articles and reports I've been reading. I could be wrong, they could be wrong, who knows. But it makes sense to me and I think they'll be able to manage some sort of solution with a partial-full stadium. Possibly with non or reduced concession stands, organized bathroom flows etc.  

2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

Maybe you have missed the Grim bit out of your name and your after a few victim's.

Do a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life ? 

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2 hours ago, TheReaper said:

Because when you spend a lot of time (ie most of the match) the risks increase as the likelihood of transmission increase. More opportunity for droplets from you cheering to make their way to someone in front of you. Most the localized outbreaks that aren't care homes are places like meat packing plants, postal sorting facilities, greenhouses with lots of workers etc. where people are in close quarters and for extended periods of time. So for that extended period of sitting in you seat, the additional space may be required to minimize that.

But when you pass by someone - on the sidewalk, or heading to the pisser - the time exposure is very low, and that makes the risk very low. A strict, 100%-all-the-time 2m distance will not have an appreciably larger effect on reducing transmission than having a mask on and being quick. 

All that is my understanding of various articles and reports I've been reading. I could be wrong, they could be wrong, who knows. But it makes sense to me and I think they'll be able to manage some sort of solution with a partial-full stadium. Possibly with non or reduced concession stands, organized bathroom flows etc.  

Do a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life ? 

The cost of opening stands would be what compared to income?

Keep thinking..?

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On 16/05/2020 at 23:26, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Not sure how fit young RL players are at risk. I've had it (I'm a 41 year old not that fit man) and it was as bad as a moderate to bad cold

Well, you can count yourself lucky as quite a few in your position will have a far worse experience followed with major long term issues.

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On 16/05/2020 at 21:03, moorside roughyed said:

I'm an Oldham fan so social distancing wouldn't be a problem. ?

If we re-start behind closed doors , I wonder if we could use stock crowd backgrounds from recent SL at all-seater football grounds (I won't name the clubs) to make it look less empty but socially-distanced.

16 hours ago, THE RED ROOSTER said:

Not personally but up until recently in my semi-rural area with traffic low you get a lot of drivers who obviously dreamt of being Jensen Button or Lewis Hamilton....?

Just as a matter of fact,  Road casualities in GB in the 12 months up to June 2019 were:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-in-great-britain-provisional-estimates-year-ending-june-2019

Does not stop people driving to matches though and nor should it.

So fewer deaths in a 12-month period than COVID19 has notched up in the last 8 weeks? Not sure quoting the figures has helped your argument here.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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4 hours ago, Just Browny said:

If we re-start behind closed doors , I wonder if we could use stock crowd backgrounds from recent SL at all-seater football grounds (I won't name the clubs) to make it look less empty but socially-distanced.

So fewer deaths in a 12-month period than COVID19 has notched up in the last 8 weeks? Not sure quoting the figures has helped your argument here.

Plus there are probably very few road and work deaths under lockdown. So when we look back at this year coronavirus is likely to be responsible for more deaths than simply the difference between this year and the five year average. 

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On 16/05/2020 at 22:24, RL does what Sky says said:

Necessary ?  Helpful ?

Well, for me, yes on both accounts. It gives an indication as to how many people might be willing to go to matches in they were allowed to be played infront of a crowd.

If everybody said "yes" then the clubs would know it might be worth pushing for it to be done, whereas if a vast majority say "no" then they might think twice as to whether it would be worth opening it up to them.

My opinion ... No, I will not attend until I am certain in my mind that all would be OK.

PS  .. Ash, don't tell the editor who you write for at TRL that you don't think it's necessary or helpful for people to post on one of their forums ! ?

Point well argued. I just think there's bigger things than Rugby League and creating a scenario where we are all alive and staying at home trumps hypothetical sporting attendance, for me.

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Just now, Ash Hope said:

Point well argued. I just think there's bigger things than Rugby League and creating a scenario where we are all alive and staying at home trumps hypothetical sporting attendance, for me.

Oh yes, I agree with that ... and I, for one, am not going to rush back to watch RL until I know all is OK.

However, I just think it's better to discuss things in advance rather than wait until the last minute.

As I have said before on here , if we all had the same opinion on everything then there would be no point in having these forums.

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I’d love to go a live game. I miss it. I miss live Rugby League games on Sky too. I know they’re trying to fill the void and I appreciate that they are with games from the past but it’s not the same. 

Would I actually go to a game though? I’m not sure, as much as I miss it, I’d need to be convinced, I think, that there’s proper safety precautions and/or the risk to myself and others is very small. 

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3 hours ago, Ash Hope said:

Point well argued. I just think there's bigger things than Rugby League 

I think that's given, however, this is a forum dedicated to Rugby League, saying we shouldn't discuss something Rugby League related however hypothetical seems a tad strange to me.

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I'd go providing that the entire stadium was being utilised. At Newcastle Thunder we have a capacity of 10,500 and an average gate of just over 1,000 so provided that all 4 stands were open I'm confident that me and my family would be able to keep our distance from other spectators.

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14 hours ago, Just Browny said:

So fewer deaths in a 12-month period than COVID19 has notched up in the last 8 weeks? Not sure quoting the figures has helped your argument here.

All things are relative, my point being there is an element in risk in everything we do .

If you want another example, try Hong Kong flu killed 80,000 in the UK in 1968-689 when I was in my infancy. Not that I would remember a great deal but according to my 86 year old mother the country never shut down then.

So in response to the OP I would definately go if spectators were allowed in.


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