Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Pre-victorian.... but still amazing engineering at a time Britain really did lead the world..... Love this. I could also add this to the nice towns thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Robin Evans said: I.know of 4 I think. Barnsley main no4 (above), the national mining museum at caphouse. There's one near Haydock.(Astley shaft??) and I believe one left in Wales.... Oh aye.... Pleasley may still stand.... that was the last steam driven winding gear in britain The headgear at Hatfield Main & Clipstone Colliery are is still standing Hatfield Main Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I do like to watch all the programmes that are on at the moment about the canals and railways. The engineering, ingenuity and can do spirit on display is staggering. The landscape is literally littered with feats of engineering that boggle the mind, especially when you bare in mind the lack of modern machinery. We really did lead the world but are now very much left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Fanatic Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Robin Evans said: I.know of 4 I think. Barnsley main no4 (above), the national mining museum at caphouse. There's one near Haydock.(Astley shaft??) and I believe one left in Wales.... Oh aye.... Pleasley may still stand.... that was the last steam driven winding gear in britain The Haig Pit one overlooking one of the pitches Kells play on is still standing (first photo). There's also an one at the former Florence iron ore mine on the outskirts of Egremont. 100% League 0% Union Just because I don't know doesn't mean I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSoutherner Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Damien said: I do like to watch all the programmes that are on at the moment about the canals and railways. The engineering, ingenuity and can do spirit on display is staggering. The landscape is literally littered with feats of engineering that boggle the mind, especially when you bare in mind the lack of modern machinery. We really did lead the world but are now very much left behind. When they were explaining how the Burnley embankment of the Leeds Liverpool was all built by hand !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Robin Evans said: I.know of 4 I think. Barnsley main no4 (above), the national mining museum at caphouse. There's one near Haydock.(Astley shaft??) and I believe one left in Wales.... Oh aye.... Pleasley may still stand.... that was the last steam driven winding gear in britain Pleasley closed in 1983, Donisthorpe Colliery was still using steam when it close in 1990. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, SSoutherner said: When they were explaining how the Burnley embankment of the Leeds Liverpool was all built by hand !! Yeah its staggering. I watched one of the great railway journey type ones the other day, about the Alps, and they were talking to an engineer who was building a new tunnel to replace the existing one. He basically said after all these years the time to build the two tunnels would still be about the same. The difference is that instead of 2000 men involved there was now just 70 and it was far less dangerous with no/few fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 There is a proposal to reopen the sealed-off Queensbury Railway Tunnel as a cycling and walking link between Bradford and Halifax. Predictably, the council is, at best, lukewarm about the proposal. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: There is a proposal to reopen the sealed-off Queensbury Railway Tunnel as a cycling and walking link between Bradford and Halifax. Predictably, the council is, at best, lukewarm about the proposal. Is there an old railway tunnel between Huddersfield and Manchester that's sealed ? Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSoutherner Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Wolford6 said: There is a proposal to reopen the sealed-off Queensbury Railway Tunnel as a cycling and walking link between Bradford and Halifax. Predictably, the council is, at best, lukewarm about the proposal. I thought the council are pro but want money from Highways England as they are the ones planning on spending nearly the same amount on pouring in concrete and sealing it ( i think the numbers are something like £5m to seal safely or £6.5m to restore and open as cycle route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, Cumbrian Fanatic said: The Haig Pit one overlooking one of the pitches Kells play on is still standing (first photo). There's also an one at the former Florence iron ore mine on the outskirts of Egremont. I've seen the iron ore mine. I didn't realise the one at haig was still there. The one at barnsley is now grade 2 listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Marauder said: Is there an old railway tunnel between Huddersfield and Manchester that's sealed ? You might be thinking of Woodhead tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester. It was closed to rail traffic several years ago. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, Marauder said: Pleasley closed in 1983, Donisthorpe Colliery was still using steam when it close in 1990. I thought donnisthorpe was converted in the 80s? Have I got that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, SSoutherner said: I thought the council are pro but want money from Highways England as they are the ones planning on spending nearly the same amount on pouring in concrete and sealing it ( i think the numbers are something like £5m to seal safely or £6.5m to restore and open as cycle route The (Labour-run) council are now "for" the scheme now because people have mounted a campaign and a petition signed by 10,000 people to open the tunnel. Also, because the Consevative Group on the council has backed the proposal. [In 2016 in the local newspaper] A Bradford Council spokesman said: “We are continuing to investigate the options around the future of Queensbury Tunnel. However the tunnel is owned by Highways England and would need a considerable investment of funding to see it re-opened and maintained in the future.” If you look at the "Supporters" page on the Queensbury Tunnel website, there are no Bradford Councillors on it. http://www.queensburytunnel.org.uk/supporters/index.shtml Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 The end of Thorne Colliery, demolished August 2004 after millions of pounds had been spent on the shafts, pit bottom and new headgear, it never turned a cobble of coal since 1956. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ullman said: You might be thinking of Woodhead tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester. It was closed to rail traffic several years ago. I finished mining in 1993 and there was talk then of driving a tunnel, towards Manchester, for some reason I thought it was from Huddersfield. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Marauder said: The end of Thorne Colliery, demolished August 2004 after millions of pounds had been spent on the shafts, pit bottom and new headgear, it never turned a cobble of coal since 1956. That was criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Marauder said: I finished mining in 1993 and there was talk then of driving a tunnel, towards Manchester, for some reason I thought it was from Huddersfield. The centralised washers at woolley grimey and South kirby cost zillions and only washed coal for a few years. Hardly a good return on the capital outlay. Similarly the barnsley main refurb.... the colliery closed in 66 and reopened 85 as it took over access the coal barrow colliery was mining. It closed 6 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Eel Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I think Saltaire Model Village takes some beating, as much for the story of self-sufficiency as the architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: That was criminal Work had started on a 3rd shaft designed to bring the coal to the surface. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: The centralised washers at woolley grimey and South kirby cost zillions and only washed coal for a few years. Hardly a good return on the capital outlay. Similarly the barnsley main refurb.... the colliery closed in 66 and reopened 85 as it took over access the coal barrow colliery was mining. It closed 6 years later. Thorne in theory had a straight run to the North sea with the Barnsley seam gaining thickness all the way. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marauder said: Thorne in theory had a straight run to the North sea with the Barnsley seam gaining thickness all the way. It would have been at least 6ft by Thorne anyway wouldn't it?? My last job in the coal board was at the pfbc project at grimey..... clean coal tech.... the last bit of that project cost 22m..... for just the last two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Robin Evans said: Not many of these left..... I worked here.... I was the finance gadgy in a previous existence Without knowing quite where that is, my Grandad was a draughtsman who designed quite a few of the pit head structures around the Yorkshire area. Edit: not in the victorian era, obviously! Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, gazza77 said: Without knowing quite where that is, my Grandad was a draughtsman who designed quite a few of the pit head structures around the Yorkshire area. Edit: not in the victorian era, obviously! Barnsley main no4 shaft Gaz.... No2 shaft was refurbished in the 80s.... perhaps he might have been involved in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, Robin Evans said: Barnsley main no4 shaft Gaz.... I have no way of knowing what he worked on, but subject to age it's quite possible he had at least some input into it. He started with the coal board straight out of Whitwood tech in the early 40s and retired as Chief Draughtsman around 1984. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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