Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Rocket said: I hope that you do not consider me patronizing, it just seems there is just not enough high level competition readily available at present and that is holding England back. All that would be needed is an `ice-breaker` to show one of these smaller nations could tour successfully on and off the field. That may then open the the gates to all the potentially entertaining southern hemisphere teams. I know if there’s another 3 match series against New Zealand I will go to 1 of the games, whichever’s closest to me, as I did last time. If we were to play a 3 game series against Tonga I’d be buying tickets and going to all 3 games. I’m sure plenty of fans feel the same and a Tonga tour would be just as successful as a Kiwis tour. We just need the organisers to break from their tired and tested same old fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themusician_2 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 11/07/2020 at 13:13, Damien said: I honestly cannot see why a tour from Tonga wouldn't generate similar crowds to what we see from the Kiwis. I honestly think people are sick to death of playing the kiwis and people would be more inclined to go to something different, particularly after Tonga's exploits over recent years. People who may not fancy going to match against other lesser nations due to possibly thinking they would be one sided certainly aren't going to think that about Tonga. Costs and player payments are less for Tonga than the Kiwis too. They are our biggest rivals and we have great games against them. Do the english cricket fans get tired of playing australia? Nope. I think the kiwis are a far bigger draw than tonga. There is no polynesian dysphoria in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Themusician_2 said: They are our biggest rivals and we have great games against them. Do the english cricket fans get tired of playing australia? Nope. I think the kiwis are a far bigger draw than tonga. There is no polynesian dysphoria in the UK. They are not our biggest rivals and never have been. They have always been very much 2nd to Australia. Various posters on here have said they are sick of playing NZ and that Tonga would be a bigger attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Themusician_2 said: They are our biggest rivals and we have great games against them. Do the english cricket fans get tired of playing australia? Nope. I think the kiwis are a far bigger draw than tonga. There is no polynesian dysphoria in the UK. No, because they play Australia once at home every 4 years in a regular schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themusician_2 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Damien said: They are not our biggest rivals and never have been. They have always been very much 2nd to Australia. Various posters on here have said they are sick of playing NZ and that Tonga would be a bigger attraction. Ye they are australia is in a league of their own. I'm willing to bet my house england vs tonga will not garner interest like england vs nz and nz are number 1 in the world right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Themusician_2 said: Ye they are australia is in a league of their own. I'm willing to bet my house england vs tonga will not garner interest like england vs nz and nz are number 1 in the world right now. Sorry that is laughable. People are sick of playing NZ, people have complained about it on here for the past few years. I don't know anyone that would consider NZ number 1 in the world either. Where are you based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themusician_2 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Damien said: Sorry that is laughable. People are sick of playing NZ, people have complained about it on here for the past few years. I don't know anyone that would consider NZ number 1 in the world either. Where are you based? Look at the world rankings. In my opinion nz is still a bigger draw than tonga. But i guess we got to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Themusician_2 said: Look at the world rankings. In my opinion nz is still a bigger draw than tonga. But i guess we got to agree to disagree. I don't need to. No one in their right mind would say NZ are number 1. Again where are you based? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Themusician_2 said: Look at the world rankings. In my opinion nz is still a bigger draw than tonga. But i guess we got to agree to disagree. Do a poll and then we'll know what people here think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Why don't we just play them both? A tri nations series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, JM2010 said: Why don't we just play them both? A tri nations series I’d be more up for playing NZ if there was another nation (or two) to make it a bit more of a tournament feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: I’d be more up for playing NZ if there was another nation (or two) to make it a bit more of a tournament feel. I agree. Maybe bring Samoa or Fiji over too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 They could play warm up matches against France, Wales, Scotland, Ireland too so they get some big games. Maybe bring USA, Canada and Jamaica over to take on France and the home nations at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themusician_2 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Damien said: I don't need to. No one in their right mind would say NZ are number 1. Again where are you based? The world rankings at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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