kev p Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 i just read an article today regarding stadium capacities post covid19, it was about football but the result will be the same. its saying capacity will be 33% maximum, but could be as low as 17%. the variation is based on the concourses at the ground & entrances/exits etc. the older the ground the more likely it will be 17%. will be pretty distaterous for most clubs. st helens with a capacity of 14,000 i believe, will have a capacity of less than 5,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Slag off you least favourite team/attendance here now. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 York would be interesting. 17% of 5,000 (850) at Bootham Crescent Or 33% of 8,500 (2,805) at the LNER Community Stadium! @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 The wearing of face coverings will negate any attendance reductions , the consumption of food and drink at the games however could continue to be problematic , unless of course you have one of the Wetherspoons masks with attached drinking straw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Fanatic Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, kev p said: i just read an article today regarding stadium capacities post covid19, it was about football but the result will be the same. its saying capacity will be 33% maximum, but could be as low as 17%. the variation is based on the concourses at the ground & entrances/exits etc. the older the ground the more likely it will be 17%. will be pretty distaterous for most clubs. st helens with a capacity of 14,000 i believe, will have a capacity of less than 5,000. St Helens has a capacity of 18000 giving it a capacity of 6000 at 33% usage, which is way better than 0 capacity. Same for every Superleague club, some supporters are better than none 100% League 0% Union Just because I don't know doesn't mean I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 At Leeds I'm pretty sure we could get 33% with 3 main entrance points plus a few others. So looking at 7000ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Plow Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Clubs won’t be able to complain about no away fans now then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronicler of Chiswick Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr Plow said: Clubs won’t be able to complain about no away fans now then Wanna bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev p Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: At Leeds I'm pretty sure we could get 33% with 3 main entrance points plus a few others. So looking at 7000ish? the article said its the concourses are the main issue, entrances are not the main issue as fans turn up over a period of time, but all leave pretty much together. hopefully if all goes ok with 17-33% it can be increased to 50%+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiganermike Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 At the DW 33% would be around 8300 which would cover most of our ST holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'm looking forward to the end of the season when the SL excitedly reports a record breaking number of capacity crowds in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB. Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Interesting. That's inside the stadia, but what impact does travelling to the matches take? For example, public transport would likely to continue to be restricted in capacity, so that would drive people into their own vehicles. Meanwhile, a 33% maximum attendance limit would still leave plenty of spare space for Salford ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Tommygilf said: At Leeds I'm pretty sure we could get 33% with 3 main entrance points plus a few others. So looking at 7000ish? I dunno, Headingley is pretty tightly packed in the circulation spaces compared to a new build on a clean plot. Not sure what impact seating vs standing will have as well - may have a disproportionate impact on terraced areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, M j M said: I dunno, Headingley is pretty tightly packed in the circulation spaces compared to a new build on a clean plot. Not sure what impact seating vs standing will have as well - may have a disproportionate impact on terraced areas. I was thinking if you've got access from the cricket western terrace side, the south stand, and the Eastern turnstiles there's pretty good access. For the Carnegie stand for example it should be fairly easy to make it a 1 way system. The two new stands have large concourses, significantly larger than previously. I don't have much concern about being able to organise a system with those. On terracing i think we'll just see areas designated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Ting Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, M j M said: I dunno, Headingley is pretty tightly packed in the circulation spaces compared to a new build on a clean plot. Not sure what impact seating vs standing will have as well - may have a disproportionate impact on terraced areas. Perhaps every fan will have something akin to a corporate box without prawn sarnies. Learn to listen without distortion and learn to look without imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If you cannot get into a ground to support your local team, you should have no problem getting into the AJ Bell if you live close enough. Not a dig but they have struggled with crowds and would appreciate the support no doubt. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, RayCee said: If you cannot get into a ground to support your local team, you should have no problem getting into the AJ Bell if you live close enough. Not a dig but they have struggled with crowds and would appreciate the support no doubt. I know it's an old story and also definitely not having a dig at the club, but actually getting to the AJ Bell is a significant problem before you even consider the issue of getting admission. From personal experience as an away fan: 3 visits and 3 nightmare journeys, all of which got worse the closer I got, after those visits I simply gave up. As someone who regularly attends a lot of games as a neutral I do strongly applaud the general idea however. Rochdale or Widnes might well get a visit from me if they join the autumn comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Ironically, Wakefield at Belle Vue could do really ok in this. The capacity is already highly restricted due to safety issues. (7000?) This capacity crowd is still rather sparse, if equally spread. The scale of the business is so small, with minimal overheads, that an average crowd of 6200 would allow the club to finally spend the full cap (we don't). We have only been averaging 5k-ish. We only have 2500 or so season ticket holders. The demolition of buildings in front of the 'stadium' (Superbowl et al) has left a large area which could be used for controlling waiting fans / dispersing fans after the game. It depends on how the rules are made as regards terracing of course, but with a bit of organisation I could see it working. We could get to the point where we are admitting paying customers rather than season tickets only. How close to 5k normality could we get? Would this mean all home fans could attend? Changing/showering facilities are another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamfordsbeans Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Quite a number of grounds have areas not in use for a normal game such as Hull,Huddersfield,Salford. Presumably if all 4 sides are open this would increase capacity. The only downside would be extra staff costs for gatemen ,stewards etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 If going to the match is anything like going to the pub it won’t be a great experience. Went out for a few beers yesterday, first time in months, 8 of us. Most places wouldn’t let us in as they were letting in groups of 4 max and where we could go we had to leave names and addresses, get temperature checked, 15 minute lecture about social distancing before getting through the door, not allowed to move chairs (even in almost empty pubs) - it was dismal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 As long as the wearing of face covering is policed there will be no issues with regards attending games , eating and drinking will be an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: If going to the match is anything like going to the pub it won’t be a great experience. Went out for a few beers yesterday, first time in months, 8 of us. Most places wouldn’t let us in as they were letting in groups of 4 max and where we could go we had to leave names and addresses, get temperature checked, 15 minute lecture about social distancing before getting through the door, not allowed to move chairs (even in almost empty pubs) - it was dismal. Tbf mate its hit and miss in those circumstances. Some pubs I've been in are ver strict others less so. I would recommend booking a table ajead though, especially for a larger group such as your 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: As long as the wearing of face covering is policed there will be no issues with regards attending games , eating and drinking will be an issue Some shops, cafes and indeed the police jave said it will be impossible to police the wearing of facemasks. Indeed, will they actually be a necessity at grounds? Fundamentally its an outside space and as you say has food/drink outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Slater Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 It looks like season ticket holders will take up the majority of seats or terracing spots, so away fans could end up losing out. We must get permission from Sky for live video streaming to cater for away fans and also deter them from travelling. If it was done on a pay-per-view basis via the clubs' own TV channels it would provide extra revenue, and if sky were that pedantic they could charge a percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Some shops, cafes and indeed the police jave said it will be impossible to police the wearing of facemasks. Indeed, will they actually be a necessity at grounds? Fundamentally its an outside space and as you say has food/drink outlets. The wearing of face coverings is to negate social distancing , if everybody is ' covered ' then social distancing doesn't need to be ' policed ' , which means essentially you can open a whole stadium at capacity , or as much as you want to steward but still at that capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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