Old Frightful Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Original charge downgraded from F to E. Banned for 5 games with £500 fine. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/18662572.disciplinary-saints-wing-tommy-makinson-banned-grab-liam-watts/#:~:text=SAINTS winger Tommy Makinson has,was downgraded to an E.&text=Makinson was charged with a,Watts in the 13th minute. I would say he should consider himself rather fortunate. Hull FC....The Sons of God... (Well, we are about to be crucified on Good Friday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wire quin Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 How is it not “other contrary behaviour”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Lucky . It was absolutely blatant and the footage clear and conclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Old Frightful said: Original charge downgraded from F to E. Banned for 5 games with £500 fine. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/18662572.disciplinary-saints-wing-tommy-makinson-banned-grab-liam-watts/#:~:text=SAINTS winger Tommy Makinson has,was downgraded to an E.&text=Makinson was charged with a,Watts in the 13th minute. I would say he should consider himself rather fortunate. Wonder what George Flanagan thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Wire quin said: How is it not “other contrary behaviour”? It was, it was downgraded because of his good disciplinary record it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, dkw said: It was, it was downgraded because of his good disciplinary record it seems. Good behaviour should see him at the low end of the grading, not moved into another category. The offence was an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dave T said: Good behaviour should see him at the low end of the grading, not moved into another category. The offence was an F. That would have meant being unavailable for a possible Challenge Cup semi final though. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, Dave T said: Good behaviour should see him at the low end of the grading, not moved into another category. The offence was an F. Apparently it was downgraded to an E/6 good behaviour got it to a 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Dave T said: Good behaviour should see him at the low end of the grading, not moved into another category. The offence was an F. Bang on Dave Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Spidey said: Apparently it was downgraded to an E/6 good behaviour got it to a 5 Then they have got it wrong. The operational rules state attacking testicle is a Grade F. There is no Grade E punishment for this offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I'll take five games! Could have been far worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Old Frightful said: Original charge downgraded from F to E. Banned for 5 games with £500 fine. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/18662572.disciplinary-saints-wing-tommy-makinson-banned-grab-liam-watts/#:~:text=SAINTS winger Tommy Makinson has,was downgraded to an E.&text=Makinson was charged with a,Watts in the 13th minute. I would say he should consider himself rather fortunate. Yes. He is a good player, but he is something of a poster boy. The judiciary have been shown to be a bunch of numpties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moove Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave T said: Then they have got it wrong. The operational rules state attacking testicle is a Grade F. There is no Grade E punishment for this offence. The original charge was 'other contrary behaviour' not 'attacking the testicles'. The former is A-F to be determined on a case-by-case basis and the grade can be changed at the tribunal, whereas the latter is just F. Presumably then contact was more 'meat' than 'two veg' (can't understand why the offence is so specific about just testicles) but the detail isn't on the disciplinary report. He's been incredibly fortunate either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Rupert Prince said: Yes. He is a good player, but he is something of a poster boy. The judiciary have been shown to be a bunch of numpties. I hate to see a manipulation of the system like this. It was clear what he did. Acts like this have wider implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Roger Johnson on BBC North West , quoted his ban as being for " grabbing the crotch of an opponent " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I actually haven’t seen the incident... but since he pleaded guilty, can’t help but ‘feel’ he’s a lucky boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 A right balls up by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Moove said: Presumably then contact was more 'meat' than 'two veg' (can't understand why the offence is so specific about just testicles) In my experience one is far different from the other. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Moove said: The original charge was 'other contrary behaviour' not 'attacking the testicles'. The former is A-F to be determined on a case-by-case basis and the grade can be changed at the tribunal, whereas the latter is just F. Presumably then contact was more 'meat' than 'two veg' (can't understand why the offence is so specific about just testicles) but the detail isn't on the disciplinary report. He's been incredibly fortunate either way. Yup, it's a compete fudge and shouldn't be allowed to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 A complete moment of madness from Makinson and i'm glad he didn't try to contest it and plead guilty, just let the judiciary dish out their punishment. Cant complain about the ban or the fine St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinoferg Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Davo5 said: A right balls up by the sounds of it. Totally nuts to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Roger Johnson on BBC North West , quoted his ban as being for " grabbing the crotch of an opponent " Looked more like the knackers but I’m no medical expert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DavidM said: Looked more like the knackers but I’m no medical expert It’s a pity it wasn’t Paul Wood he tackled,could have claimed it was an air swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Dave T said: Yup, it's a compete fudge and shouldn't be allowed to happen. Surely you arent surprised by this, the whole procedure is a farce with them basically plucking bans out of their posterior for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 16 hours ago, Gooleboy said: Wonder what George Flanagan thinks. Wish I played for St Helens ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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