Saint Toppy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Smudger06 said: Why the confused face ?  Stats don't lie (not Inc. 15/16/17)  Well probably the Super League fantasy league ones do   Probably because you've picked the likes of Olpherts, Westerman & Houghton St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: Probably because you've picked the likes of Olpherts, Westerman & Houghton Or he’s only picked 2 Saints players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Smudger06 said: Why the confused face ?  Stats don't lie (not Inc. 15/16/17)  Well probably the Super League fantasy league ones do   Stats tell a story in regards to Superleague,I think Wane will select players who he thinks can play to his plans and can compete at a higher level rather than how many metres/tries they can score against Leigh/Salford etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Stats tell a story in regards to Superleague,I think Wane will select players who he thinks can play to his plans and can compete at a higher level rather than how many metres/tries they can score against Leigh/Salford etc. As you probably guessed, Just wanted to get some reactions off ppl whose favorite players off their own teams ain't on there plus create a bit of a talking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said: Probably because you've picked the likes of Olpherts, Westerman & Houghton Olpherts is best Englishman in Super League wearing a #2 as it stands if you have to pick a team right now. Westerman best Englishman in SL wearing a #13 Jersey. The thread title is pick now, It's only 8 matches in, things will change massively by final selection time I'm sure....... Stats don't lie, especially SL Fantasy League Stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route66 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Still a long way to the world cup let's hope Wane is keeping an open mind and is prepared to a pick a squad running into form at the back end of the season, watching the origin game the other day I really hope Luai and To'o confirm for Samoa because the game at Newcastle promises to be a classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 We go around this buoy every year prior to the international window. Stats are not the be and end all when selecting the international side. You need a mixture of experience, quality and potential, as well playing to a high standard. Players like Olpherts are not international standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Mann Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: We go around this .... every year prior to the international window. And that's why we love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said: On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles I appreciate a lot of SL lovers over NRL will take umbrage with this side, but looks pretty alright to me. But you have to pick William's in the halfs, surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 23 hours ago, Farmduck said: After watching tonight's Origin I think England's biggest challenge might be finding the right centres. If AUS plays T-Turbo and Latrell there's maybe 4 tries per game just between those two + whatever they set up for others. Going by that game, england would do well to keep within 30 points of NSW let alone Australia. Worrying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said: On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles Manfred you left out Yorkshire’s finest Sam Walker . Surely him and Georgie Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Thompson, Williams, Farnworth, Hodgson and Sutton won’t be available for the Combined Nations game through being in Australia and Griffin and a few others are currently injured from Wane’s April train on squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said: On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles What current form have Farnworth,Percival,Bateman,Burgess & Hodgson shown ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said: On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles Looks a useful side but I don't think Radley will opt for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Davo5 said: What current form have Farnworth,Percival,Bateman,Burgess & Hodgson shown ?? Tom Burgess has been very good for Souths this year, not sure why you are saying he doesn't have any form. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 England would have smashed that Maroons side as well yesterday so let's not panic too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, Manfred Mann said: On current form, the team will now likely be:  Sam Tomkins Tommy Makinson. Herbie Farnworth, Mark Percival, Tom Davies  Johnny Lomax' Gareth Widdop  Victor Radley Elliot Whitehead, John Bateman, Tom Burgess, Josh Hodgson, Luke Thompson  Interchange: Daryl Clark, Alex Walmsley, Ryan Sutton, Morgan Knowles Oh give over with your Radley guff. He isn't English, hasn't expressed any intention of ever wanting to play for England, and more importantly, he isn't anything special anyway. Aside from the odd big hit that has the Aussie press & commentators creaming their pants (and now under the new rules just earns him a lengthy ban) he's no better than some of the real Englishmen we have for that position. Knowles has already played in a WC and while Wales took a few beatings in that competition Knowles was outstanding for them and was their player of the tournament even at just 20 yrs of age. Has Radley shown he can perform on the international stage ? On the only occasion the 2 of them have come head to head in the WCC in 2020 again it was Knowles who was the stand out 13 that day, not Radley. The main difference in that match was a couple of pieces of brilliance from Manu and one from Keary. Then there's club form - Knowles has arguably been the stand out 13 in SL for the last couple of years and despite missing the entire pre-season and the first 1 1/2 months of this he's getting back to that top form, shown by his performance in the CCSF last week. The only reason you want Radley picked is because he's Australian and he plays for an NRL club. And don't even get me started on Hodgson. His club form is nothing special at all at the moment and he's been tried at GB level and failed miserably. Roby, Clarke & McShane are all far better hookers than he is. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Tom Burgess has been very good for Souths this year, not sure why you are saying he doesn't have any form. He’s been average at best and has been found out defensively with the new rules speeding up the game,way behind Walmsley and you couldn’t have both of them on the pitch together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davo5 said: He’s been average at best and has been found out defensively with the new rules speeding up the game,way behind Walmsley and you couldn’t have both of them on the pitch together. OK, so we disagree on Burgess form this year. Who would you have as props in the 17? "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: Oh give over with your Radley guff. He isn't English, hasn't expressed any intention of ever wanting to play for England, and more importantly, he isn't anything special anyway. Aside from the odd big hit that has the Aussie press & commentators creaming their pants (and now under the new rules just earns him a lengthy ban) he's no better than some of the real Englishmen we have for that position. Knowles has already played in a WC and while Wales took a few beatings in that competition Knowles was outstanding for them and was their player of the tournament even at just 20 yrs of age. Has Radley shown he can perform on the international stage ? On the only occasion the 2 of them have come head to head in the WCC in 2020 again it was Knowles who was the stand out 13 that day, not Radley. The main difference in that match was a couple of pieces of brilliance from Manu and one from Keary. Then there's club form - Knowles has arguably been the stand out 13 in SL for the last couple of years and despite missing the entire pre-season and the first 1 1/2 months of this he's getting back to that top form, shown by his performance in the CCSF last week. The only reason you want Radley picked is because he's Australian and he plays for an NRL club. And don't even get me started on Hodgson. His club form is nothing special at all at the moment and he's been tried at GB level and failed miserably. Roby, Clarke & McShane are all far better hookers than he is. Your correct Radley isn’t English and hasn’t expressed an interest in playing for England but calling him nothing is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dunbar said: OK, so we disagree on Burgess form this year. Who would you have as props in the 17? Depends on who we were playing and how the games were being officiated but he’d only ever be a bench player to spell Walmsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Depends on who we were playing and how the games were being officiated but he’d only ever be a bench player to spell Walmsley. Come on, you are not under oath, it's only a web site to talk about Rugby League, which props would you have in the 17 for an England team today. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Is the WC being played as the NRL play the game ... or as SL play it ? May have a bearing on selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Where in the rules does it say we have to pick 17? Surely we just pick as many NRL players as we possibly can, make Sutton captain, and sit back and admire genius at work. It’ll be like watching Avengers Assemble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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