Hela Wigmen Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, lucky 7 said: It's thinking like mine which will grow the game in GB, not parochial thinking like your yours. Aye, of course it is I suggest as well as shifting xenophobia, you work out what parochial means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky 7 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: Aye, of course it is I suggest as well as shifting xenophobia, you work out what parochial means. I'm fully aware of what parochial means, but I'm not sure you do. Perhaps you could give me a list of non Australian players who have won grand final rings in the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, lucky 7 said: I'm fully aware of what parochial means, but I'm not sure you do. Perhaps you could give me a list of non Australian players who have won grand final rings in the last 5 years. Lomax, Makinson, Percival, Grace, Fages, Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Knowles, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Amor, Ashworth, Smith, Tomkins, Manfredi, Gildart, Sarginson, Davies, Williams, Powell, Flower, Greenwood, Bateman, O’Loughlin, Sutton, Farrell, Clubb, Escare and Navarette. That’s just the past two grand finals and that’s 29/34 (or 85%). It’s even higher if you include Leuluai, Peyroux, Taia and Naiqama, who aren’t Australian, you’re then on 33/34. But you know that. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky 7 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: Lomax, Makinson, Percival, Grace, Fages, Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Knowles, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Amor, Ashworth, Smith, Tomkins, Manfredi, Gildart, Sarginson, Davies, Williams, Powell, Flower, Greenwood, Bateman, O’Loughlin, Sutton, Farrell, Clubb, Escare and Navarette. That’s just the past two grand finals and that’s 29/34 (or 85%). It’s even higher if you include Leuluai, Peyroux, Taia and Naiqama, who aren’t Australian, you’re then on 33/34. But you know that. Obviously. So that leaves a lot of Aussies doesn't it. Now how many non Australians have played in the last 5 NRL grand finals , which will confirm my point, and it and i would guess less than 5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, lucky 7 said: So that leaves a lot of Aussies doesn't it. Now how many non Australians have played in the last 5 NRL grand finals , which will confirm my point, and it and i would guess less than 5% It leaves one Australian in two years that’s won the Super League Grand Final. One. Waerea-Hargreaves, Liu, Taukeiaho, Tetevano. 4/34 players selected by Roosters in their back-to-back wins. So actually more than 5% and more “non-Australians” (your words) to win the NRL in the past two years than “Australians” to win Super League in that period. So, yeah, we’ve established that there’s been one Australian whose won the Super League Grand Final in the past two years, four non-Australians in the Roosters’ two Grand Final winning sides over that same period and yet Australia are still better at Rugby League than England/GB. So yeah, you’re argument is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky 7 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: It leaves one Australian in two years that’s won the Super League Grand Final. One. Waerea-Hargreaves, Liu, Taukeiaho, Tetevano. 4/34 players selected by Roosters in their back-to-back wins. So actually more than 5% and more “non-Australians” (your words) to win the NRL in the past two years than “Australians” to win Super League in that period. So, yeah, we’ve established that there’s been one Australian whose won the Super League Grand Final in the past two years, four non-Australians in the Roosters’ two Grand Final winning sides over that same period and yet Australia are still better at Rugby League than England/GB. So yeah, you’re argument is poor. Read my question again. You seem very addled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Anyone got an idea who might replace Woolford then? (Sorry to get back on topic.) Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB90 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: It leaves one Australian in two years that’s won the Super League Grand Final. One. Waerea-Hargreaves, Liu, Taukeiaho, Tetevano. 4/34 players selected by Roosters in their back-to-back wins. So actually more than 5% and more “non-Australians” (your words) to win the NRL in the past two years than “Australians” to win Super League in that period. So, yeah, we’ve established that there’s been one Australian whose won the Super League Grand Final in the past two years, four non-Australians in the Roosters’ two Grand Final winning sides over that same period and yet Australia are still better at Rugby League than England/GB. So yeah, you’re argument is poor. Add Daniel Tupou (Tonga) and Joseph Manu (NZ). 30% of last years winning team were 'non Australian' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, lucky 7 said: Read my question again. You seem very addled. 18/68 “non-Australians” have played in the previous two NRL Grand Finals. A grand total of 26.47%. So, you’re still proper wrong. Just leave it. Don’t make yourself look any dafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, AB90 said: Add Daniel Tupou (Tonga) and Joseph Manu (NZ). 30% of last years winning team were 'non Australian' Tupou was born in Sydney, but you’re right on Manu. He slipped my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky 7 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: 18/68 “non-Australians” have played in the previous two NRL Grand Finals. A grand total of 26.47%. So, you’re still proper wrong. Just leave it. Don’t make yourself look any dafter. Oh dear. I struggle with unlettered people like you who struggle with basic English. I'm use to dealing with educated people not bovine people like you. I will have to put you on my ignored list as clearly you are not part of the intelligentsia i like to debate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood1 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Any thoughts on the Simon Woolford situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davet Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Confirmed as leaving at the end of the season. https://www.giantsrl.com/article/7393/club-statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsehhh Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 Huddersfield must be one of the most unlucky teams going. How many times have they lost be a golden point or less than 2 or 3 points in the last few games. I think it's not the correct decision here, but it seems that the hierarchy wants him gone rather than him leaving out of choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hughsehhh said: Huddersfield must be one of the most unlucky teams going. How many times have they lost be a golden point or less than 2 or 3 points in the last few games. I think it's not the correct decision here, but it seems that the hierarchy wants him gone rather than him leaving out of choice Huddersfield are definitely on the upwards curve and have been very competitive. Shame as he looked to be building something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davet Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Think he took on a tough assignment when he took over and has done a great job in helping to move on some of the older players while bringing a vast array of younger players. Whoever does replace him will need to continue to back the youth policy or it will be another couple of years with no progress being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 So who is in line to replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Rover Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Wrong decision for me. He has had to blood a lot of young players who have been holding their own well and I’m sure that under Woodford they would have improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 06/09/2020 at 20:19, lucky 7 said: Oh dear. I struggle with unlettered people like you who struggle with basic English. I'm use to dealing with educated people not bovine people like you. I will have to put you on my ignored list as clearly you are not part of the intelligentsia i like to debate with. ...... oops.... I meant ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, LeeF said: So who is in line to replace him? Lucky 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, JohnM said: Lucky 7. Only if he can actually get an answer to the question he wants answering not just the one he actually asks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Who’s in the intelligentsia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Warrior Dragon Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, DavidM said: Who’s in the intelligentsia ? Dunno. Maybe me, I suppose. What does 'intelligentsia' mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, DavidM said: Who’s in the intelligentsia ? If you have to ask....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Wiltshire Warrior Dragon said: Dunno. Maybe me, I suppose. What does 'intelligentsia' mean? What does 'intelligentsia' mean? It means "not you and me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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