Lowdesert Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Lower decker knacker checker. (LDKC). What say a player suffers a rupture or worse still, fertility issues? Sometimes you do get a handful in the tackle but to then to continue grabbing and pulling is another matter. i haven’t seen Linehams but imo Makinsons was as bad as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my missus Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 what i'd like to know is why would a player have his balls dangling like that at all, it's just asking for trouble. Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cheshire Setter said: So he was trying to bring him to climax then presumably? Rubbish technique. You never know until you’ve tried it (not that I’m volunteering). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: 8 game ban for Lineham. Nice holiday for the lad. He pleaded not guilty so expect an appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Padge said: When we tried dishing out 10, 11, 12 match bans for foul play (late 80s I think) it had no effect on behaviour. SO they gave up on the long bans. Coaches are the key to player behaviour. And they get an easy ride and are rarely, if ever, challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 All three incidents have only been picked up by a player complaint. I wonder if this goes on far more than we thought but in previous years, players just wouldn't report it? Abdull has got 2 matches, Makinson got 5 and Lineham 8. That is a significant discrepancy. I'll give the reasoning for the decisions a read tomorrow to see if there is an obvious answer why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, LeeF said: And they get an easy ride and are rarely, if ever, challenged. Exactly, I have long maintained that if coaches got punished for the behaviour of their players they would soon change how the players behaved. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chris22 said: All three incidents have only been picked up by a player complaint. I wonder if this goes on far more than we thought but in previous years, players just wouldn't report it? Abdull has got 2 matches, Makinson got 5 and Lineham 8. That is a significant discrepancy. I'll give the reasoning for the decisions a read tomorrow to see if there is an obvious answer why! I can't speak for the other two but Makinson had his charge reduced from an F, hence the lower ban, and that was in recognition of his outstanding disciplinary record to date. He also admitted guilt and apologised (though whether that made a difference I don't know!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, my missus said: what i'd like to know is why would a player have his balls dangling like that at all, it's just asking for trouble. Something the woman's game has dealt with effectively from day 1. They are still vulnerable to a Trumping, though. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggyq Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Lowdesert said: Lower decker knacker checker. (LDKC). What say a player suffers a rupture or worse still, fertility issues? Sometimes you do get a handful in the tackle but to then to continue grabbing and pulling is another matter. i haven’t seen Linehams but imo Makinsons was as bad as it gets. Im still baffled about how he didn't get the full 8 games..I dont care that he was an angel beforehand..it was totally out of order and warranted the full 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I’m fairly sure the RFL will have this in hand. They do need to get a firm grip of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, bobbruce said: I’m fairly sure the RFL will have this in hand. They do need to get a firm grip of the situation. They’ve handled it ok so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Setter Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Also, why do we call it a squirrel grip? I have many squirrels who transit my garden. I’ve never had one grab my testicles, although they do steal the bird feed. Is it a common problem or are they being unfairly targeted with sexual assault allegations? The subject wasn’t really approached on episodes of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Cheshire Setter said: Also, why do we call it a squirrel grip? I have many squirrels who transit my garden. I’ve never had one grab my testicles, although they do steal the bird feed. Is it a common problem or are they being unfairly targeted with sexual assault allegations? The subject wasn’t really approached on episodes of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Put more peanut butter on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cheshire Setter said: Also, why do we call it a squirrel grip? I have many squirrels who transit my garden. I’ve never had one grab my testicles, although they do steal the bird feed. Is it a common problem or are they being unfairly targeted with sexual assault allegations? The subject wasn’t really approached on episodes of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Isn't it obvious why the reference to squirrels? Anyway, I think this behaviour needs to be completely eradicated. I don't think its funny fellas and its a huge (disgusting) negative in terms of the games image on television. 20 to 30 years of hard fought development work in the community wiped out in an instant. I'm not saying that these blokes are sexually motivated but it looks abhorrent. Three more examples, that the game is its own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, Cheshire Setter said: Also, why do we call it a squirrel grip? I have many squirrels who transit my garden. I’ve never had one grab my testicles Holding nuts, I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Chris22 said: All three incidents have only been picked up by a player complaint. I wonder if this goes on far more than we thought but in previous years, players just wouldn't report it? Abdull has got 2 matches, Makinson got 5 and Lineham 8. That is a significant discrepancy. I'll give the reasoning for the decisions a read tomorrow to see if there is an obvious answer why! Before being able to read the reasonings I can actually see why Abdull’s grading was lower and hence his ban as the offence looked different to the other two. It looked more accidental and stopped once he realised As others have already posted the reasons for downgrading of Makinson’s charge have never been clearly stated although I can understand why his ban was less than Lineham who has more of a disciplinary record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 hours ago, Padge said: When we tried dishing out 10, 11, 12 match bans for foul play (late 80s I think) it had no effect on behaviour. SO they gave up on the long bans. Coaches are the key to player behaviour. I wouldn't have any other coach other than Mr Wane to lead our national team he will get inbetween the ears of his charges and we will in my opinion see a more focussed attitude from them for the job in hand than the teams Wane Bennett sent out. But I will not be convinced any other way, that Mr Wane's words were still ringing in the ears of Ben Flowers in that incident with Lance Hohia so early in the game, we know from interviews how passionate Mr Wane can be and a GF v his greatest enemy at domestic level would be the pinnicle, now he will be transferring that against British RL's greatest enemy, can't wait, but hopefully the fuse length of the player's will be a little longer than Ben Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Cheshire Setter said: Also, why do we call it a squirrel grip? I have many squirrels who transit my garden. I’ve never had one grab my testicles, although they do steal the bird feed. Is it a common problem or are they being unfairly targeted with sexual assault allegations? The subject wasn’t really approached on episodes of Rocky and Bullwinkle. I think the Australians called it a squirrel grip first, so we have simply imported it. Squirrels in Australia have been eliminated as an invasive species, perhaps that (along with the more obvious nut reference) is why they use the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Chris22 said: Abdull has got 2 matches, Makinson got 5 and Lineham 8. That is a significant discrepancy. I'll give the reasoning for the decisions a read tomorrow to see if there is an obvious answer why! Don't know about Abdull's past disciplinary record but Lineham's is poor, he seems to be picking up bans every year for various indiscretions. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, LeeF said: Before being able to read the reasonings I can actually see why Abdull’s grading was lower and hence his ban as the offence looked different to the other two. It looked more accidental and stopped once he realised As others have already posted the reasons for downgrading of Makinson’s charge have never been clearly stated although I can understand why his ban was less than Lineham who has more of a disciplinary record Yes. If the charge is whatever it is then by all means give a lower end of the spectrum available, but to change the charge to a different offence JUST because of supposed previous behaviour, then at is a bit dumb. 8 matches for Lineham takes him to almost if not all of the end of our truncated season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Badrinath Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said: Yes. If the charge is whatever it is then by all means give a lower end of the spectrum available, but to change the charge to a different offence JUST because of supposed previous behaviour, then at is a bit dumb. 8 matches for Lineham takes him to almost if not all of the end of our truncated season. yup, injuries and form permitted, he may have played his last game for this season, no guarentee he gets his spot back if we're still playing when his ban is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 hours ago, Saintslass said: I can't speak for the other two but Makinson had his charge reduced from an F, hence the lower ban, and that was in recognition of his outstanding disciplinary record to date. He also admitted guilt and apologised (though whether that made a difference I don't know!). No, it wasn't. The actual challenge was downgraded from F to E, nothing to do with his record. It is there in writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Let's be 100% clear, the grade F and E for Lineham and Makinson were nothing to do with past record. Those gradings are for the actual offence. It is there in writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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