Hela Wigmen Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/54470350 I remember it was discussed here and the original thread has been locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticchris Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Good. Seems balanced in outcome given that it was a first offence and the article suggests that he has spent time in between voluntarily making steps to understanding why what he was doing and saying online was dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 A racist tweet gets a £250 fine and no ban from playing. What did Zak Hardaker get for his homophobic behaviour? I’d say the 2 are comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: A racist tweet gets a £250 fine and no ban from playing. What did Zak Hardaker get for his homophobic behaviour? I’d say the 2 are comparable. Yeah, I read the link I’ve posted and was, for want of a better word, underwhelmed by the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: A racist tweet gets a £250 fine and no ban from playing. What did Zak Hardaker get for his homophobic behaviour? I’d say the 2 are comparable. Tbf, one was on the pitch in a televised super league game between 2 of the biggest clubs in a marquee fixture, the other was a loutish tweet of insinuations by a part time player not too dissimilar from things you can read anywhere online, including this very board might I add, who was followed by virtually no one. I don't think the two are really that comparable and as for a ban from playing I think thats a bit presumptuous for the next 18 months at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Tbf, one was on the pitch in a televised super league game between 2 of the biggest clubs in a marquee fixture, the other was a loutish tweet of insinuations by a part time player not too dissimilar from things you can read anywhere online, including this very board might I add, who was followed by virtually no one. I don't think the two are really that comparable and as for a ban from playing I think thats a bit presumptuous for the next 18 months at least. Indeed, plus one was direct abuse of a ref. That one should have been far more severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It's OK though, because Zak is a changed character now. I'm sure this lad will be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I think he has got off lightly and so did Hardaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Tommygilf said: Tbf, one was on the pitch in a televised super league game between 2 of the biggest clubs in a marquee fixture, the other was a loutish tweet of insinuations by a part time player not too dissimilar from things you can read anywhere online, including this very board might I add, who was followed by virtually no one. I don't think the two are really that comparable and as for a ban from playing I think thats a bit presumptuous for the next 18 months at least. Racism shouldn’t be tolerated in any way in the game, whether it’s on the pitch or posting online. A £250 fine is simply not an acceptable punishment. Many posters on here could lose their job if they did something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Racism shouldn’t be tolerated in any way in the game, whether it’s on the pitch or posting online. A £250 fine is simply not an acceptable punishment. Many posters on here could lose their job if they did something similar. Interesting how Halifax have been quiet on this, unless I've seen them make a statement. Do they still sing a song about peadophiles after matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said: Interesting how Halifax have been quiet on this, unless I've seen them make a statement. Do they still sing a song about peadophiles after matches? ????? "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robthegasman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 We have all done some naughty things at some stage and even rugby league fans and players have. I know I did when I completely lost my cool with a linesman after my team were continually not getting any decision and I called him a name that was what Germany was run by in the 1930s except a Neo one. I did apologise on the club Facebook page for my actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Phil said: ????? It was shown on Rugby AM, caused a small fuss at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 hours ago, RigbyLuger said: Interesting how Halifax have been quiet on this, unless I've seen them make a statement. Do they still sing a song about peadophiles after matches? What songs this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Hopefully Fax do have this problem under control and although it must be hard for part time players in that they are less known and probably think they can put what they want on social media, the fact is they are still representing a club and their views are going to paint that club in a certain way. The club should have cracked down on the Tommy Robinson tweets and such and although the players have now moved along stuff like that they should just stick to their private whatsapp groups and have a bit more common sense when using social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said: Hopefully Fax do have this problem under control and although it must be hard for part time players in that they are less known and probably think they can put what they want on social media, the fact is they are still representing a club and their views are going to paint that club in a certain way. The club should have cracked down on the Tommy Robinson tweets and such and although the players have now moved along stuff like that they should just stick to their private whatsapp groups and have a bit more common sense when using social media. There are a lot of rugby league players who post stuff I find disappointing, but probably not that unusual for young lads from some of the places they live and work in, particularly those who work in alpha male environments. It does surprise me how many still have that 'man-up' style theme despite all the talk of mental health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poower Lad Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 What is the wording of what he actually tweeted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Racism shouldn’t be tolerated in any way in the game, whether it’s on the pitch or posting online. A £250 fine is simply not an acceptable punishment. Many posters on here could lose their job if they did something similar. Absolutely, and punishment should be relative to both the crime and the individual being punished. £250 might be two match fees worth of wages (which he's not been paid this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Poower Lad said: What is the wording of what he actually tweeted . Along the lines of "Look at where has the worst rates of infections (Leicester, West Yorkshire, East Lancashire), what do all these places have in common" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Tommygilf said: Absolutely, and punishment should be relative to both the crime and the individual being punished. £250 might be two match fees worth of wages (which he's not been paid this year). Exactly this. Given his likely income from the game, £250 doesn't seem too low a figure. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dave T said: There are a lot of rugby league players who post stuff I find disappointing, but probably not that unusual for young lads from some of the places they live and work in, particularly those who work in alpha male environments. It does surprise me how many still have that 'man-up' style theme despite all the talk of mental health. The bosses of some "anti-maskers" should really be having a word too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Tommygilf said: Along the lines of "Look at where has the worst rates of infections (Leicester, West Yorkshire, East Lancashire), what do all these places have in common" Turns out plausible deniability lasts until about the second time you ask the follow-up, "I don't know, what do they have in common?" ... Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, RigbyLuger said: The bosses of some "anti-maskers" should really be having a word too. Rugby players tweeting this sort of stuff? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, gingerjon said: Rugby players tweeting this sort of stuff? Ben Cockayne has been showing his support against "muzzles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyscoot Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RigbyLuger said: Ben Cockayne has been showing his support against "muzzles" I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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