graveyard johnny Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 putting sean long in a position like that is a bit like putting a bulldog in charge of the sausages see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I wonder what the Harlequins old boys thought of his stylish tattoo on his neck maybe its caught on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Having watched Sean Long on sky yesterday, I think it’s safe to say clubs won’t be lining up to have him as a head coach. He’s best suited to being an assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 14:29, ATLANTISMAN said: I wonder what the Harlequins old boys thought of his stylish tattoo on his neck maybe its caught on I’d have thought they would have been more interested in what he could add to their skill sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Having watched Sean Long on sky yesterday, I think it’s safe to say clubs won’t be lining up to have him as a head coach. He’s best suited to being an assistant Why,didn’t realise it was a job interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Having watched Sean Long on sky yesterday, I think it’s safe to say clubs won’t be lining up to have him as a head coach. He’s best suited to being an assistant Yeah, he only broke down the plays and the tries with expertise, descriptive language and with a real passion for what he was saying. Not enough “all credit to the boys”, “we wuz robbed”, “grind” or other bilge we get from dull head coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: Yeah, he only broke down the plays and the tries with expertise, descriptive language and with a real passion for what he was saying. Not enough “all credit to the boys”, “we wuz robbed”, “grind” or other bilge we get from dull head coaches. I agree. He seemed to know what he was talking about and broke it down well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, JM2010 said: I agree. He seemed to know what he was talking about and broke it down well In the words of "Tez" "He's Quality inte" Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Looks like an alien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I thought Long did a good job of highlighting some of the technical aspects of the game and showed the tactical awareness of the attacking players and how they expoited the defensive weaknesses of the opposition. When Trent Robinson does this we are gushing over him. When Long does it we focus on the way he looks. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Davo5 said: Why,didn’t realise it was a job interview. If it was Sky will employ him .... he talked yawn! I didn't realise he'd become bilingual! 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I thought Long did a good job of highlighting some of the technical aspects of the game and showed the tactical awareness of the attacking players and how they expoited the defensive weaknesses of the opposition. When Trent Robinson does this we are gushing over him. When Long does it we focus on the way he looks. That was me , and I hold my hand up , yes his analysis was excellent , not ground breaking but certainly good , but sometimes the visual aspect just gets in the way , I just kept thinking of MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: That was me , and I hold my hand up , yes his analysis was excellent , not ground breaking but certainly good , but sometimes the visual aspect just gets in the way , I just kept thinking of MIB Well, I agree it is not a look I have adopted... but I am pretty sure he would say the same about me! "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Dunbar said: Well, I agree it is not a look I have adopted... but I am pretty sure he would say the same about me! And me Dunbar , and me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggyq Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 09:50, DoubleD said: Myler is currently favoured in that position. Walker has not evolved or improved much over the last couple of years, albeit he’s been riddled by injury. He’s promising but he’s got a lot of improvement to do and a bit of competition won’t harm Myler has been excellent and you can tell when hes not playing,Walker needs to just get his head down and learn the game plenty of time for him yet if he stays clear of injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Dunbar said: I thought Long did a good job of highlighting some of the technical aspects of the game and showed the tactical awareness of the attacking players and how they expoited the defensive weaknesses of the opposition. When Trent Robinson does this we are gushing over him. When Long does it we focus on the way he looks. The difference being Robinson is able to articulate his point in a clear and concise way. Long, whilst undoubtedly knowledgeable about the game, rambled on, often at a tangent, interjected with phrases ‘you know’ or ‘you know me’. Brian Carney amusingly picked up on the latter eventually and quipped back ‘yes I do’. I couldn’t care less how he looks, it’s immaterial in his ability to do the job but I don’t think he comes across in an assertive manner that leaders require. As an aside, and I realise I am going off on an tangent but it was really refreshing to hear Luke Robinson say after the game that he’s doesn’t believe in luck and you make your own luck. I’m a firm believer in this but coach’s too often hide behind this/the referee as an excuse for the team’s failings, which is ultimately counter productive because that feeds into the players mentality, rather than addressing the matters at hand which have led the team to defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Cynic Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, DoubleD said: As an aside, and I realise I am going off on an tangent but it was really refreshing to hear Luke Robinson say after the game that he’s doesn’t believe in luck and you make your own luck. I’m a firm believer in this but coach’s too often hide behind this/the referee as an excuse for the team’s failings, which is ultimately counter productive because that feeds into the players mentality, rather than addressing the matters at hand which have led the team to defeat. I think it is certain that what coaches say over a few seconds post match,over a television screen,is not the same as that explained to the players as they are addressed over future days/nights. It was interesting to hear Sean Long,while assistant at a struggling Salford,who had a weak pack that failed to make many metres,explain how he was forced to create attacking moves from very deep within their own half. It was a novel experience for him.I think they mainly involved the full back Patton and half back Holdsworth. He obviously knows nothing,of course.How can someone play under Agar,and respect him while at Hull,when all those knowledgeable FC fans didn't respect him? No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 His match analysis was excellent and should join the match commentary to explain the attack/defence as the game develops rather than a studio guest. He could add a lot to the SKY tv presentation. His dress sense needs looking if he is to be a tv regular which I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 14:21, graveyard johnny said: putting sean long in a position like that is a bit like putting a bulldog in charge of the sausages Thanks for this and your attempt at a political thread Johnny, a right good laugh both of those. Locked. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, DoubleD said: The difference being Robinson is able to articulate his point in a clear and concise way. Long, whilst undoubtedly knowledgeable about the game, rambled on, often at a tangent, interjected with phrases ‘you know’ or ‘you know me’. Brian Carney amusingly picked up on the latter eventually and quipped back ‘yes I do’. I couldn’t care less how he looks, it’s immaterial in his ability to do the job but I don’t think he comes across in an assertive manner that leaders require. As an aside, and I realise I am going off on an tangent but it was really refreshing to hear Luke Robinson say after the game that he’s doesn’t believe in luck and you make your own luck. I’m a firm believer in this but coach’s too often hide behind this/the referee as an excuse for the team’s failings, which is ultimately counter productive because that feeds into the players mentality, rather than addressing the matters at hand which have led the team to defeat. Luke Robinson for me was a 10 out of 10 Sean Long 5 out of 10 (If that) simple P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Father Ted said: His match analysis was excellent and should join the match commentary to explain the attack/defence as the game develops rather than a studio guest. He could add a lot to the SKY tv presentation. His dress sense needs looking if he is to be a tv regular which I hope he does. A shirt, jumper, trousers and a coat? What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 12 hours ago, DoubleD said: The difference being Robinson is able to articulate his point in a clear and concise way. Long, whilst undoubtedly knowledgeable about the game, rambled on, often at a tangent, interjected with phrases ‘you know’ or ‘you know me’. Brian Carney amusingly picked up on the latter eventually and quipped back ‘yes I do’. I couldn’t care less how he looks, it’s immaterial in his ability to do the job but I don’t think he comes across in an assertive manner that leaders require. As an aside, and I realise I am going off on an tangent but it was really refreshing to hear Luke Robinson say after the game that he’s doesn’t believe in luck and you make your own luck. I’m a firm believer in this but coach’s too often hide behind this/the referee as an excuse for the team’s failings, which is ultimately counter productive because that feeds into the players mentality, rather than addressing the matters at hand which have led the team to defeat. Your basing all of this on his first appearance on this show, no leeway for maybe him being nervous. Or does every single other person in this position blow you away on their first go. Its ridiculous that you have psychoanalysed him from 20 minutes on a TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Dunbar said: I thought Long did a good job of highlighting some of the technical aspects of the game and showed the tactical awareness of the attacking players and how they expoited the defensive weaknesses of the opposition. When Trent Robinson does this we are gushing over him. When Long does it we focus on the way he looks. Yeah but Trent Robinson is one of those amazing Aussie supermen, they are just better at everything than us poor English lads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 For some context, here’s what Long was wearing; A white shirt, a jumper, a black coat and he had a pair of trousers and a pair of shoes on. Nothing particularly out of the ordinary and especially not to the standards we’ve become accustomed to on Sky this year. I would suggest that people are more “offended” by the showing of tattoos and a haircut that most middle aged bores on here couldn’t have pulled off for 30+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Plenty of Gok Wan’s on here,give Long a break and judge him on his rugby knowledge,with more broadcasting experience he will make a top pundit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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