The Future is League Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Man of Kent said: It might have made sense with the Wolfpack in Super League (though it’s colder and more of a faff to get to than Toronto) pre-Covid but it’s a good question when SLE has found there is no value in having a Canadian club. It’s got me stumped! Also talking of value. There is no value in having another team from the M62 corridor being the 12th team in Super League. They would offer nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, gingerjon said: The professionalism of MLR https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/21/major-league-rugby-us-glendale-raptors-withdrawal Wow, that's a whole order of magnitude of the finances, politics, in-fighting and confusion in our game at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Hello said: Ha ha, they had just months before paid a record huge amount for just one player - blows out of the water any silly notion that it was anything other than covid that caused them to withdraw. They were bankrupt. Owed loadsamoney. I can pay for SBW tomorrow with a rubber cheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Hello said: Ha ha, they had just months before paid a record huge amount for just one player - blows out of the water any silly notion that it was anything other than covid that caused them to withdraw. Without Covid Argyle's businesses would not have had the cash flow problems they did have. Of course it played a huge part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styx Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 So a thread on Ottawa has turned into another Toronto bashing exercise. You can claim they are linked to a degree, but how many threads do you need to say the same thing over and over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Rupert Prince said: They were bankrupt. Owed loadsamoney. I can pay for SBW tomorrow with a rubber cheque. But you wouldn't pay for him would you if you were bankrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 hours ago, JohnM said: I said it was a serious question. I wanted a serious answer. So again, why? Loving the game isn't enough of an answer. Because they have a vision, a dream, and believe that with loads of hard work and determination they can make it a reality. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1812 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 hours ago, JohnM said: I said it was a serious question. I wanted a serious answer. So again, why? Loving the game isn't enough of an answer. Then that is your problem as you seem to be fishing for an answer that doesn’t exist. It was same reason Perez had a show on tv in Canada that broadcasted RL highlights, the same reason he ran Ruby League Canada, the same reason he started the Wolfpack and now the Aces. He just loves rugby league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 It not my problem. If Ottawa hopefuls cannot explain what lies behind this, the motivation, the plan, the execution, the finances, then how will they win sponsors, fans and above all, forum members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnM said: It not my problem. If Ottawa hopefuls cannot explain what lies behind this, the motivation, the plan, the execution, the finances, then how will they win sponsors, fans and above all, forum members? It all comes across as blind faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjonn Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 15 hours ago, JohnM said: Serious question: why would anyone want to start a pro rugby league club in Ottawa? Not sure your get any objective answer... that is answer based on emotion is more likely than serious thought through response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TheReaper said: Without Covid Argyle's businesses would not have had the cash flow problems they did have. Of course it played a huge part. Then this billionaire entrepreneur should gave delved into his supposed deep pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Rupert Prince said: They were bankrupt. Owed loadsamoney. I can pay for SBW tomorrow with a rubber cheque. They weren't, but don't let facts confuse you. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1812 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, JohnM said: It not my problem. If Ottawa hopefuls cannot explain what lies behind this, the motivation, the plan, the execution, the finances, then how will they win sponsors, fans and above all, forum members? I’ve given you the motivation, which is all you originally asked for. No one on the forum is going to be privy to the finances or execution so I am not sure why you have all of a sudden moved the goal post to include them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Michael1812 said: I’ve given you the motivation, which is all you originally asked for. No one on the forum is going to be privy to the finances or execution so I am not sure why you have all of a sudden moved the goal post to include them. He needs something to pick holes in, like many on this forum. Thankfully enough people had sufficient vision and determination in 1895. Lets be grateful that there weren't forums in those days or the NU would never have got off the ground. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/zakhardaker1/status/1324710741816082434 Two months money for the Ottawa lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Michael1812 said: I’ve given you the motivation, which is all you originally asked for. No one on the forum is going to be privy to the finances or execution so I am not sure why you have all of a sudden moved the goal post to include them. Don't be so defensive and precious. My post, my question my goalposts. Nowhere have I indicated a position for or against the establishment of the club. I do know though, that just "loving the sport" will not recruit potential sponsors, players and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: He needs something to pick holes in, like many on this forum. Thankfully enough people had sufficient vision and determination in 1895. Lets be grateful that there weren't forums in those days or the NU would never have got off the ground. He needs something to pick holes in, like many on this forum. illiteracy breeds ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Rupert Prince said: Then this billionaire entrepreneur should gave delved into his supposed deep pockets. Do you think every billionaire has a billion dollars in the bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/oseg-risk-default-covid-19-lansdowne-1.5789261 I wonder how much this had to do with the Aces decision. Not sure what OSEG's involvement is beyond being the landlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 hours ago, The Future is League said: Also talking of value. There is no value in having another team from the M62 corridor being the 12th team in Super League. They would offer nothing What if it was Liverpool or Manchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1812 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, JohnM said: Don't be so defensive and precious. My post, my question my goalposts. Nowhere have I indicated a position for or against the establishment of the club. I do know though, that just "loving the sport" will not recruit potential sponsors, players and fans. I may be wasting my time responding to you but I’ll give it one more go. You realise there is a difference between the motivation to own a pro rugby club in Ottawa and the business plan required to run the club? I have you the motivation. None of us know their business plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnM said: He needs something to pick holes in, like many on this forum. illiteracy breeds ignorance. As you say. Keep trying and you will improve. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, TheReaper said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/oseg-risk-default-covid-19-lansdowne-1.5789261 I wonder how much this had to do with the Aces decision. Not sure what OSEG's involvement is beyond being the landlord. Good link. I am sure they must be closely related. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Good link. I am sure they must be closely related. Dont know if it is, the Redbacks though have been a big success since entering the CFL they have already won the Grey Cup hosted 1 Grey Cup and average around 23000 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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